Re: Vincent Untz and the "users that like to hate people"

[Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam whitemice org>]

On Tue, 2013-02-19 at 00:24 +0800, Ma Xiaojun wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Adam Tauno Williams
> <awilliam whitemice org> wrote:
> > Java applications are packaged in MSIs, DEBs, and RPMs just like
> > everything else.  Those packages include a variety of 'support' files.
> > "Users" do not use JAR files, they use applications that are installed.
> There is no DEB, RPM for Minecraft.
> Well, let's blame the vendor.

Yes.  [it certainly has nothing at all to do with GNOME]

Alternatively every developer/vendor is responsible for the crap every
other developer/vendor does [or does not] do.  That's silly.

> Anyway, I don't consider install random DEB, RPM something good to
> have, also generally no root access in public computers.

And on any decent public computer you can't execute code from your
'home' or working directory anyway.  So six of this, half-dozen of that,
you won't be able to run that code [and shouldn't be able to].

> > You'd debug it!  But that is *NOT* the task of the Desktop Environment.
> > GNOME does nothing to *get in the way of* you debugging a piece of
> > non-functional hardware.  Supporting hardware is not GNOME's task.
> > ... I don't know how to say that any clearer.
> It's just about identifying the chip.
> Well, if you think "lscpi" inside Terminal has better UX...
> > Yes, I did.  And I'm right.  Running it multiple times is going to tell
> > you what?  cut-n-paste the output into gedit, Tomboy, bijiben,
> > whatever...  gather and organize all the information you need to debug
> > something.  That is how GOOD debugging is done.
> You made my day.

Great!

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Adam Tauno Williams  GPG D95ED383
Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA