Re: [orca-list] Gnome3, Orca and ArchLinux

[Thomas Ward <thomasward1978 gmail com>]

Hi Michael,

Good point. I basically have plans to set up a testbox here sometime
in the next week or two to try and hopefully test and track down some
of these accessibility issues. Hopefully if we, the users of this list
can file bug reports early on, the Gnome developers will be able to
correct these issues and something like Gnome 3.2 will be much more
stable and accessible.

I definitely remember the early days of the Gnome 2.x development with
Gnopernicus, Gnome 2.4, etc and it was pretty poor compared to later
updates of Gnome. Accessibility really didn't get decent until Gnome
2.8 as I recall. So in hindsight I don't think Gnome 3 is as bad as it
was during the early Gnome 2.x days by a long shot. Its mainly just
bugs and things that need to be fixed. I think that if we work
together to track down these issues we can get Gnome 3.2 or 3.4 back
up to the 2.32 standards we once had.

On 5/6/11, Michael Whapples <mwhapples aim com> wrote:
> Hello,
> Firstly as Steve mentioned, part of the advantage of a GUI/menu system
> is the discoverability of features. Yes bash may have bash completion,
> but for that you need a clue how the command may start.
>
> On the topic of things going down hill in gnome 3, remember that the
> gnome 2.x stuff was generally a evolutionary development, gnome 3 was a
> major change and so problems should be expected. If people turn away
> because of the problem then many of the issues will never be properly
> pinned down. Think of all the man hours of use gnome 2.x had by the time
> we got to gnome 2.32 and compare that to the number of man hours of use
> gnome 3 has had.
>
> On specific issues with the gnome 3 interface, well all changes will not
> suit someone. In my case I have decided to make use of most of the
> underlying gnome 3 stuff but use the xfce desktop. At least the menu
> works more how I want it. I am not totally free of all gnome 3 bugs, I
> still get issues arising from at-spi2 as I am still using that.
>
> I would say if you can, possibly try and keep using gnome 3 or at least
> what parts you can and as you find bugs then report them and developers
> can try and fix them Mike Gorse manage to sort out one crash I was
> getting at-spi2 within the last couple of days.
>
> Michael Whapples