Re: [orca-list] Gnome3, Orca and ArchLinux

[Michael Whapples <mwhapples aim com>]

Hello,
Firstly as Steve mentioned, part of the advantage of a GUI/menu system 
is the discoverability of features. Yes bash may have bash completion, 
but for that you need a clue how the command may start.

On the topic of things going down hill in gnome 3, remember that the 
gnome 2.x stuff was generally a evolutionary development, gnome 3 was a 
major change and so problems should be expected. If people turn away 
because of the problem then many of the issues will never be properly 
pinned down. Think of all the man hours of use gnome 2.x had by the time 
we got to gnome 2.32 and compare that to the number of man hours of use 
gnome 3 has had.

On specific issues with the gnome 3 interface, well all changes will not 
suit someone. In my case I have decided to make use of most of the 
underlying gnome 3 stuff but use the xfce desktop. At least the menu 
works more how I want it. I am not totally free of all gnome 3 bugs, I 
still get issues arising from at-spi2 as I am still using that.

I would say if you can, possibly try and keep using gnome 3 or at least 
what parts you can and as you find bugs then report them and developers 
can try and fix them Mike Gorse manage to sort out one crash I was 
getting at-spi2 within the last couple of days.

Michael Whapples
On 01/-10/37 20:59, Thomas Ward wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> Michael wrote:
>
>         My gods.  Wouldn't it just be easier to go back to basics, ditch
> what you can of the stoopid desktop managers, have X11 fire up a
> terminal when you log on, and type your program names manually?
>
> My reply:
>
> Its beginning to look that way. For a while there Gnome accessibility
> was moving along smoothly, but since Orca 3 and Gnome 3 it sounds like
> accessibility has gone down hill. Somebody really needs to address
> these issues in a hurry as this is unacceptable considering Gnome 2 nd
> Orca 2 didn't have nearly as many problems as current releases.
>
> Cheers!