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Re: [orca-list] Gnome3, Orca and ArchLinux

My greetings of the morning, Arch Linux folks:   =)

Reading this thread put me to thinking:  We've been using Pulse Audio
in Vinux since mid 2010.  Bill Cox worked out a way to get it to
behave and either he or Tony (not sure who) wrote a very nice script
which you all may find rather handy.  It's called restorespeech.  It
will undoubtedly require some modification to fit in with how Arch
does things but, I'll scare up my copy when I get home tonight and
e-mail to the list in hopes it helps someone.  What it does is modify
your Pulse Audio setup such that Speakup, Orca and Yasr behave like
good little programs and stop being bashful and talk without any of
that nasty latency and crackle Pulse is infamous for.  It'll set pulse
up for you, rebuild speakup from source, I think, install and
configure speech dispatcher, orca and yasr for you.  It's designed to
get your pc talking with just one command or even a hotkey since it's
also bound to control alt shift r in Gnome.  Very handy for when
updates break accessibility and you lose speech for some reason or
other and you are dead in the water because of it since, as you all
well know, you don't always have a nice sighted pal within shouting
distance to lend a hand.  Like I said, it will probably require some
modification and adaptation to conform with how Arch Linux does things
and, you may not need all of its functionality but it may be something
you find useful.  If you can't wait and want to get your hands on it,
google the vinux project's PPA and see if you can't download it by
downloading the Vinuxscripts package and rooting around in there till
you find it.

hth,
Alex M

On 5/4/11, Christian <christian08 runbox com> wrote:

Hi,
My sound has just stopped working here in Arch linux after I installed it,
is it because of Pulseaudio?
If so, how to get it back?
Many thanks,
Christian


On 2011-05-04 at 21:18 Michael Whapples wrote:


What I suggested allows you still to use an application directly with
alsa. I don't know whether gnome 3 can be made so it does not use
pulseaudio but the archlinux packages sure depend on pulseaudio. The
best I have found is to stop pulseaudio blocking the actual device and
allow you still to use alsa without going through pulse.

Michael Whapples
On 04/05/11 18:18, Storm Dragon wrote:

Hi,
Is it absolutely necessary to use pulseaudio in Arch with gnome3? If
so I may stick with what I have already. It's nice to be able to play
audio games in wine without having the lag introduced by pulse.
thanks
Storm
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On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 18:02 +0100, Michael Whapples wrote:

Hello,
If all speech output on your system was affected then it sounds like it
might be another pulseaudio issue. I have been able to get a reasonably
satisfactory set up now on my laptop which uses pulseaudio (thank you
Halim), although I still feel pulseaudio is over complicating things.

Halim posted a example default.pa to the list, put that somewhere
pulseaudio will find it (I put it in /etc/pulse/default.pa, although be
aware that is system wide and user settings may override it, a problem I
hit). Now archlinux also provides a asound.conf file to configure alsa
applications to use pulseaudio's emulation, comment out the content of
this file as we want alsa applications to access alsa directly.
Configure speech-dispatcher to use alsa (NOTE: I have had issues where
speech-dispatcher has not worked properly with pulseaudio, if you want
to use speech-dispatcher with pulseaudio I would recommend using it
through libao). Now restart the system (I recommend restarting as it
ensures everything has actually been stopped and reloads configurations.

If you still have issues there is one thing which may be wrong: As I
mentioned if you put default.pa in the /etc/pulse directory user
settings may override this, I had an issue where my GDM user had the
default device pulseaudio would use was the actual hardware and so block
the device), in this case check your settings (look at files in
~/.pulse) in any user where sound isn't working properly.

I hope this works, it did for me.

Michael Whapples
On 01/-10/37 20:59, Steve Holmes wrote:

 Hey, I just decided to try and fire up gnome after all the Arch Linux
 packages updated to gnome 3.  I also pulled out orca-git for now so I
 could establish a base line by using orca-3.01 from the Arch repo.

 When I installed Orca package, it also brought in at-spi2 and

pyatspi2

 as dependencies.  But when I do 'startx' gnome starts up but I get no
 sound at all! I then thought I would tryh to force Orca to start

again

 by running from the run dialog and I got "Welcome to Orca" spoken but
 nothing after that.  then I discovered that I lost all speech - even
 on the console.  I had to reboot to get at least, back to a working
 console.

 Are there suggestions on what else I need to do to get gnome3 + Orca
 working properly? I recall directions on the Arch wiki for gnome 3

but

 I would think that wouldn't be necessary anymore since gnome3 is now
 the current default.

 Any help?



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orca-list gnome org
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Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at
http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Netiquette Guidelines are at
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Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
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