GNOME3 & 3D Compatibility [Was: Applications Compatibility]

[Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam whitemice org>]

On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 00:20 -0400, jordan wrote:
> > I've had the opposite experience.  With compiz and multi-head (second
> > display) acceleration usually got disabled and was at best hit-n-miss.
> I have 2 displays and am running compiz 0.9.5 (with nvidia), no
> problems at all - full hardware acceleration. Even with 0.8.6 running
> 2 displays, i didn't have any real issues.

Which nVidia adapter? Are you using the proprietary or Open Source
nVidia drivers?  I'd love to see this fixed up to something consistent
but, when researching, it seems it X/3D either works for people or
people are told works-for-me.

> faster? - it's not... you can't even reduce/increase the speed of your
> effects with the click of a mouse.

Maybe, I haven't tried.  They seem fine to me, I have no need to adjust
the effects.

>  the defaults for transitions in
> gnome-shell have slow timing - smooth yes, but slow moving from start
> to finish time.... so what exactly are you basing this on??? -

That I use it, and all the effects seem sub-second.  

> possibly biased benchmarks made by developers, who clearly want people
> to use Mutter/gnome-shell and not compiz? your own eyes?? (in which

Please don't insult people or question people's credibility.  That is
unfounded and rude.

> more robust? - if that was true --> then in any and all circumstances
> gnome-shell/mutter should have zero tearing, zero graphical errors, in
> situations that would break compiz. 

Really?  How does "more robust" == "perfect".  "More robust" means
m-o-r-e robust [fewer issues].  Please read text as what it means.

> Allen, you would have noticed i gave examples as to where
> gnome-shell/mutter was anything BUT robust. One trip to youtube and
> watching gnome-shell reviews will show you that it isn't as robust as
> you think.

I've watched you-tube videos and local videos in GNOME3 with no issues
at all.  Cheese also works without incident.

> Also, Mutter doesn't even have much to compare with Compiz. I haven't
> seen mutter produce even a fraction of types of
> transitions/plugins/GFX that compiz can. 

Thank goodness!  GNOME3 only needs to perform the effects that are part
of the GNOME3 experience.  Compiz is overly complicated;  one of the
advantages I see as *big* with GNOME3 is that a GNOME3 desktop is a
GNOME3 desktop; unlike GNOME2+Compiz+GNOME-Do+.... where every desktop
you sit down at is wildly different.