Re: [Evolution] Idealism face plants against asphalt [Was: downloads page]

[Ralf Mardorf <ralf mardorf rocketmail com>]

On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 00:25 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On 26 August 2013 23:55, Tom Davies <tomdavies04 yahoo co uk> wrote:
>         Is that why people are getting so defensive about Evolution's
>         inability to provide what every other project seems to be able
>         to provide?
>
>
> The current software set available in most Linux distros runs to
> several thousand packages. A typical installation runs to several
> hundred of these. For example my laptop currently has 1647 installed
> packages, of which *not a single one* was downloaded from a
> package-specific download site, i.e. the entire set came from distro
> repositories. The number of widely-used software projects which
> support Linux and have individual multi-distro binary download sites
> independent of the "official" repositories are at most in the 10's,
> being mainly things like Libreoffice, Thunderbird, Vlc etc. which are
> multi-platform (i.e. not Linux-specific).

Sorry, I'm aware that I shouldn't send a duplicated message, if I
randomly didn't select the correct account that is used to subscribed to
this list, so just an acception, I don't do it for other mails I sent
today.

-------- Forwarded Message --------
From: Ralf Mardorf <ralf mardorf alice-dsl net>
To: evolution-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Idealism face plants against asphalt [Was:
downloads       page]
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 01:23:44 +0200

On Mon, 2013-08-26 at 23:55 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
> Is that why people are getting so defensive about Evolution's
> inability to provide what every other project seems to be able to
> provide?

Most projects don't provide downloads for special distribution. Count
the projects on http://sourceforge.net/ and https://github.com/ and ...
and compare it with the few who provide DEB and RPM packages on a
homepage. Not seldom provided packages don't work. For many, likely for
most distros DEB and RPM packages are completely useless.

Often even a provided package for software at least needs to compile
kernel modules, sure it could be automated by dkms, maintainers could
provide packages that fit to each kernel update by a distro. But about
what are we talking here? About Linux userspace, configurable to the
users needs or about a Linux userspace, that fakes to be a replacement
for Microsoft and Apple?

I won the impression that most of those who continue to discuss with you
have another opinion than you've got. Most others likely disagree with
you too.

However, I try to stop continuing this discussion. I guess now everybody
said everything repeated several times.