Re: [orca-list] Should Orca present live regions on non-active tabs? (was Re: Orca reads contents of non-active tab)

[Alex ARNAUD <aarnaud hypra fr>]

    Hello all,
    
    I totally agree with Peter. I also really think we should disable
    this by default and let this configurable for advanced users that
    want to have notifications of background tabs.
    
    Best regards,
    Alex.

Le 08/10/2019 à 13:25, Peter Vágner a écrit :

> Hello,
>       
>       
>       
>       I definatelly agree with Mallory and NVDA and Mozilla folks on
>       this.
>       
>       
>       
>       Please consider the following use case:
>       
>       
>       * Firefox with three tabs
>       
>       
>           * First tab has an editing text document in Google docs
>       showing,
>       
>       
>           * The second tab has spread sheet document also in google
>       docs,
>       
>       
>           * Third tab has a wikipedia article I'm currently reading.
>       
>       
>       
>       My colleagues are collaborating on those two documents I have open
>       and orca will be reading all the corresponding background live
>       region changes.
>       
>       
>       Do you think I like all these announced as they appear?
>       
>       
>       
>       For long lasting background tasks, new submissions like articles,
>       instant messages and similar we have got desktop style
>       notifications that can be configured according to our preferences.
>       I can't currently think of a web app that allows me to configure
>       how much spam I'd like to get via live regions.
>       
>       
>       
>       It looks as this will turn out to be a settings toggle according
>       to other posts but I suggest to disable reporting background live
>       region updates by default.
>       
>       
>       
>       Greetings
>       
>       
>       
>       Peter
>       
>       
>       
>       
>       
>       Dňa 8. 10. 2019 o 13:01 Joanmarie Diggs napísal(a):
>       
> > Hi Peter. I already know how to eliminate
> >         things from non-active tabs. I'm just waiting for consensus on
> >         the question I asked.
> >         
> >         
> >         --joanie
> >         
> >         
> >         On 10/8/19 4:54 AM, Peter Vágner via orca-list wrote:
> >         
> > > Hello,
> > >           
> > >           
> > >           This thing is now solved for NVDA on Windows.
> > >           
> > >           Jamie has came up with a clever trick on how to go about
> > >           fixing it.
> > >           
> > >           
> > >           I guess something similar might also be doable within orca..
> > >           
> > >           
> > >           See his comment at
> > >           https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/1318#issuecomment-496722146
> > >           saying:
> > >           
> > >           Firefox already provides a relation to get the tab document
> > >           for a given accessible, as well as a relation to get the
> > >           currently active document from the root. We could use those to
> > >           fix this.
> > >           
> > >           
> > >           
> > >           BTW what's that special live region suitable for instant
> > >           messaging apps?
> > >           
> > >           
> > >           
> > >           Greetings
> > >           
> > >           
> > >           Peter
> > >           
> > >           
> > >           
> > >           Dňa 7. 10. 2019 o 10:00 Alex ARNAUD via orca-list napísal(a):
> > >           
> > > > Le 05/10/2019 à 16:09, Fernando
> > > >             Botelho a écrit :
> > > >             
> > > > > I agree. many instant messaging
> > > > >               networks become usable to Linux systems through web
> > > > >               interfaces,
> > > > >               
> > > > >             
> > > >             
> > > >             There is a special live region type for instant messaging.
> > > >             Do you have use case in mind we could try?
> > > >             
> > > >             
> > > >             Best regards.
> > > >             
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