Re: [orca-list] Should Orca present live regions on non-active tabs? (was Re: Orca reads contents of non-active tab)

[Peter Vágner <pvagner pvagner tk>]

Hello,


I definatelly agree with Mallory and NVDA and Mozilla folks on this.


Please consider the following use case:

* Firefox with three tabs

    * First tab has an editing text document in Google docs showing,

    * The second tab has spread sheet document also in google docs,

    * Third tab has a wikipedia article I'm currently reading.


My colleagues are collaborating on those two documents I have open and 
orca will be reading all the corresponding background live region changes.

Do you think I like all these announced as they appear?


For long lasting background tasks, new submissions like articles, 
instant messages and similar we have got desktop style notifications 
that can be configured according to our preferences. I can't currently 
think of a web app that allows me to configure how much spam I'd like to 
get via live regions.


It looks as this will turn out to be a settings toggle according to 
other posts but I suggest to disable reporting background live region 
updates by default.


Greetings


Peter




Dňa 8. 10. 2019 o 13:01 Joanmarie Diggs napísal(a):
> Hi Peter. I already know how to eliminate things from non-active tabs. 
> I'm just waiting for consensus on the question I asked.
>
> --joanie
>
> On 10/8/19 4:54 AM, Peter Vágner via orca-list wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > This thing is now solved for NVDA on Windows.
> > Jamie has came up with a clever trick on how to go about fixing it.
> >
> > I guess something similar might also be doable within orca..
> >
> > See his comment at 
> > https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/1318#issuecomment-496722146 
> > saying:
> > Firefox already provides a relation to get the tab document for a 
> > given accessible, as well as a relation to get the currently active 
> > document from the root. We could use those to fix this.
> >
> >
> > BTW what's that special live region suitable for instant messaging apps?
> >
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> > Dňa 7. 10. 2019 o 10:00 Alex ARNAUD via orca-list napísal(a):
> > > Le 05/10/2019 à 16:09, Fernando Botelho a écrit :
> > > > I agree. many instant messaging networks become usable to Linux 
> > > > systems through web interfaces,
> > >
> > > There is a special live region type for instant messaging. Do you 
> > > have use case in mind we could try?
> > >
> > > Best regards.
> > >
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