Re: [orca-list] Should Orca present live regions on non-active tabs? (was Re: Orca reads contents of non-active tab)

[Nolan Darilek <nolan thewordnerd info>]

I'd been thinking about this a bit as well, and hadn't brought it up 
because of potential controversy.


My thought is that Orca shouldn't present live regions from 
inactive/unfocused tabs or windows. Imagine the tab was any other app on 
the system. I wouldn't get terminal output read if I was in Thunderbird, 
so I don't think that an open chat tab, or even an open web terminal, 
should speak either.


For cases where a tab needs to alert in the background, we have web 
notifications, and those tend to work well.


I don't think it should be a preference, because if it were then it'd 
have no similar analog outside of web content (I.e. there's no 
preference to speak terminal output from unfocused windows.) But I don't 
feel strongly enough about it to advocate for the point. I just don't 
want to see unnecessary preference creep if it can be avoided.


On 10/1/19 9:01 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> Hi Alex.
>
> I believe this is happening due to live regions. It's not clear to me 
> if Orca should always ignore live regions from non-active tabs or if 
> that should potentially be a preference. And if it's a preference, 
> what should the default be?
>
> Thus I've changed the subject to see if we (Orca community) can reach 
> consensus on the desired behavior.
>
> --joanie
>
> On 10/1/19 8:08 AM, Alex ARNAUD via orca-list wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Environment:
> > - Debian 9 "Stretch"
> > - Firefox Nightly
> > - Orca master
> >
> > 1) Open this page: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG6je87aQJQ
> > Let Youtube move to the next video automatically
> > 2) Open a new tab with control + t and stay on the second tab
> > 3) Wait until Youtube switches to the next video
> >
> > Result:
> > Orca announce content from the Youtube tab whereas you're on another tab
> >
> > Expected result:
> > I assume we shouldn't hear data from another tab.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Alex.
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