Re: [orca-list] 2 Orca issues

Webvisum also seems to cause some of the problems for me (certainly in the google search example).

However webvisum doesn't seem to be the cause of all of this, I still get orca being placed at the top of the page when going back on the orca wiki. Is this something to do with the orca wiki causing this or is it still an orca/firefox issue?

Michael Whapples
On -10/01/37 20:59, Jacob Schmude wrote:
Actually, I'm not sure that's necessary. Going through my ff extensions one at a time that have to do, in any way, with possibly changing the page content has routed out Webvisum as the cause for this behavior, at least on my system. It seems to return focus to the top of the page, either deliberately or accidentally, and obviously that's what Orca is seeing. We're dealing with a Webvisum bug here, at least as one of the possible causes. Everyone else having this problem, do you happen to have Webvisum installed?

On Aug 9, 2009, at 04:22, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:

Hi Jacob.

I just pulled the same build you are using, but for OpenSolaris, namely:

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv: Gecko/20090729

It's still working for me. While I could be wrong, I doubt that
something within Firefox is not broken in the OpenSolaris version, but
is broken in the Linux version. So I'm starting to lean towards it being
setting related. But I'm also on the edge of zombification and in need
of a nap, so what would be awesome is the following:

1. Please open a new bug about this issue.
2. Please attach a full debug.out to the bug, along with your settings
  files (,, and anything you
  have in your related to Mozilla/Firefox/Shiretoko).

I'll take a look later today or on Monday. If it still winds up to be a
complete mystery, I may attach a debugging patch for you to try so that
I can get more data.

Thanks much!!

On Sun, 2009-08-09 at 03:55 -0400, Jacob Schmude wrote:
Using your example exactly, I do not get the correct behavior when I
press alt+left arrow. I'm returned to the google web page and my Orca
navigation is positioned back at the top, not on the link I'd just used.
System info:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv: Gecko/20090729
I'm running Ubuntu 9.04, 32-bit, GNOME 2.26.1 and Orca from git master
which is up to date at the time of this message. If there's a bug open
for this I can attach a debug file to it. If I need to supply anymore
info to help, let me know. I, like many others here it seems, didn't
even bother to consider this a bug since I wasn't aware it should
operate any differently, and no screen reader I've ever used on any
platform has ever done this reliably anyway. I just didn't think twice
about it.

On Sun, 2009-08-09 at 03:11 -0400, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
One example, again using the current Orca from git master, Firefox 3.5
(Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1) Gecko/20090623
Firefox/3.5), and OpenSolaris build 118:

1. Perform a google search for Orca

2. Tab to or use structural navigation by heading until you get to
Killer Whale - Wikipedia, the free encylopedia link

3. Press Enter on that link

4. Tab around on the resulting page

5. Press Alt+Left Arrow to go back

(Orca announces that the page has finished loading and speaks the link
Killer Whale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

6. Press Down Arrow

(Orca speaks "Orcinus orca is the sole species in the genus Orcinus, one
of the many species ... The name" which is the line immediately below
the link. In other words, focus was not placed at the top of the page,
but rather on the link I had been on and followed before pressing the
Back button.)

I will supply a debug.out upon request. <grin>

All kidding aside, help me out here guys. Let's figure this out. Thanks!

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