Re: [orca-list] 2 Orca issues

[Michael Whapples <mwhapples aim com>]

Webvisum also seems to cause some of the problems for me (certainly in 
the google search example).

However webvisum doesn't seem to be the cause of all of this, I still 
get orca being placed at the top of the page when going back on the orca 
wiki. Is this something to do with the orca wiki causing this or is it 
still an orca/firefox issue?

Michael Whapples
On -10/01/37 20:59, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> Hi
> Actually, I'm not sure that's necessary. Going through my ff 
> extensions one at a time that have to do, in any way, with possibly 
> changing the page content has routed out Webvisum as the cause for 
> this behavior, at least on my system. It seems to return focus to the 
> top of the page, either deliberately or accidentally, and obviously 
> that's what Orca is seeing. We're dealing with a Webvisum bug here, at 
> least as one of the possible causes. Everyone else having this 
> problem, do you happen to have Webvisum installed?
>
>
>
> On Aug 9, 2009, at 04:22, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
>
> > Hi Jacob.
> >
> > I just pulled the same build you are using, but for OpenSolaris, namely:
> >
> > Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.2pre) Gecko/20090729
> > Shiretoko/3.5.2pre
> >
> > It's still working for me. While I could be wrong, I doubt that
> > something within Firefox is not broken in the OpenSolaris version, but
> > is broken in the Linux version. So I'm starting to lean towards it being
> > setting related. But I'm also on the edge of zombification and in need
> > of a nap, so what would be awesome is the following:
> >
> > 1. Please open a new bug about this issue.
> > 2. Please attach a full debug.out to the bug, along with your settings
> >   files (user-settings.py, orca-customizations.py, and anything you
> >   have in your app-settings.py related to Mozilla/Firefox/Shiretoko).
> >
> > I'll take a look later today or on Monday. If it still winds up to be a
> > complete mystery, I may attach a debugging patch for you to try so that
> > I can get more data.
> >
> > Thanks much!!
> > --joanie
> >
> > On Sun, 2009-08-09 at 03:55 -0400, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> > > Hello
> > > Using your example exactly, I do not get the correct behavior when I
> > > press alt+left arrow. I'm returned to the google web page and my Orca
> > > navigation is positioned back at the top, not on the link I'd just 
> > > used.
> > > System info:
> > > Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.2) Gecko/20090729
> > > Firefox/3.5.2
> > > I'm running Ubuntu 9.04, 32-bit, GNOME 2.26.1 and Orca from git master
> > > which is up to date at the time of this message. If there's a bug open
> > > for this I can attach a debug file to it. If I need to supply anymore
> > > info to help, let me know. I, like many others here it seems, didn't
> > > even bother to consider this a bug since I wasn't aware it should
> > > operate any differently, and no screen reader I've ever used on any
> > > platform has ever done this reliably anyway. I just didn't think twice
> > > about it.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, 2009-08-09 at 03:11 -0400, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > > One example, again using the current Orca from git master, Firefox 3.5
> > > > (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1) Gecko/20090623
> > > > Firefox/3.5), and OpenSolaris build 118:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Perform a google search for Orca
> > > >
> > > > 2. Tab to or use structural navigation by heading until you get to
> > > > Killer Whale - Wikipedia, the free encylopedia link
> > > >
> > > > 3. Press Enter on that link
> > > >
> > > > 4. Tab around on the resulting page
> > > >
> > > > 5. Press Alt+Left Arrow to go back
> > > >
> > > > (Orca announces that the page has finished loading and speaks the link
> > > > Killer Whale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
> > > >
> > > > 6. Press Down Arrow
> > > >
> > > > (Orca speaks "Orcinus orca is the sole species in the genus 
> > > > Orcinus, one
> > > > of the many species ... The name" which is the line immediately below
> > > > the link. In other words, focus was not placed at the top of the page,
> > > > but rather on the link I had been on and followed before pressing the
> > > > Back button.)
> > > >
> > > > I will supply a debug.out upon request. <grin>
> > > >
> > > > All kidding aside, help me out here guys. Let's figure this out. 
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > --joanie
> > > >
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> > > > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
> > > > The manual is at 
> > > > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
> > > > The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
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> > > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
> > > The manual is at 
> > > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
> > > The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> > > Netiquette Guidelines are at 
> > > http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/NetiquetteGuidelines 
>
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