On 04/15/2010 10:14 AM, Mark Curtis wrote:
> Subject: Application menu / switcher
> From: tomek xiaoka com
> To: gnome-shell-list gnome org
> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:04:17 +0200
>
> Dnia 2010-04-15, czw o godzinie 11:35 -0400, Mark Curtis pisze:
> > "but are they really necessary on a Day to Day Base? Me
thinks not ;)"
> > I don't use accessibility features on a day to day base,
guess that
> > means no one else does and therefore GNOME Shell shouldn't
use it.
>
> If you need accessibility features - you turn it on.
> If you need dock - you install it.
>
Turning on an included feature is not the same as installing it from
somewhere else
> > I don't like this title "Do/not implement Dock" I mean, I
personally
> > would like SOME SORT of window switcher, even if it weren't
> > specifically a dock.
>
> This is exactly what I'm advocating for.
> We should come up with a nice design for a fast applications
switcher,
> not mindlessly copy-paste dock/taskbar because everyone else uses
it.
>
>
Oh, okay so we're on the same page then? Having some application
switcher.
> > I loved the idea of breadcrumbs, but the GNOME devs would
rather just
> > waste the space right of the Activities menu to show you the
active
> > application and maybe some mysterious 'menu' if they ever get
around
> > to it.
>
> That's just unfair. You shouldn't bash developers, because they
did not
> implement a planned feature yet. Please be constructive and
encouraging.
>
> GTK+ already has infrastructure for removing the application from
its
> menu. See: http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/
> I think it should be integrated in GnomeShell.
>
> The way I see it:
> http://codex.xiaoka.com/~smoku/tmp/app_menu_mockup.png
> (a bit crude but I'm no artist)
>
Yea I apologize that was a bit unfair. I guess I'm just disappointed
that the area could be used for something, it's currently not. There is
something the devs have planned, but I'm not clear on what it is or
when, so as of right now it's wasted space.
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The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple
calendars with Hotmail. Get busy.
BIG BIG BIG plus +1 on the idea from Tomasz Sterna!! This:
http://codex.xiaoka.com/~smoku/tmp/app_menu_mockup.png
is the way to go! I was just typing a long winded response advocating
doing exactly this.
I agree that a dock probably isn't the way to go, but I am 100%
positive that it needs a "window list" type of functionality. The
overview appears smooth to me, however it's the
visible window movement that's distracting and sometimes disorienting.
> I cant see how three Firefox Windows could look exactly the
same in the Overview,
> besides having the exact same Site open three Times (like 3
Google Instances) which usually happens...uhm never?
I have 4 Google instances open right now- 3 different Google trends
pages and 1 search results page. I also get the same thing when I have
2 different Redmine instances open, like right now, while I work on 2
projects at once. I daily have 2 to 4 spreadsheets open in OO that I
like to compare side to side (those I REALLY can't tell the difference
on). They all look the same from the overview.
What Tomasz Sterna proposes solves my issues, keeps the existing look
and feel, and adds consistency to the interface. The running
application is the only element on the top bar that doesn't have a
"clickable" functionality, and when I first started using the shell I
kept clicking on it.
PERFECT!
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