Re: Scroll to zoom in/out.

[Sean Brady <sbrady gtfservices com>]

On 04/14/2010 07:58 PM, Jason Sauders wrote:
> (In response to comment below) I absolutely positively agree. Gnome
> Shell is a fantastic thing, and I can see it going far. Out of all of
> the users I have shown Gnome Shell to and have used it for an extensive
> period (in the dozens) I can chop a few fingers off and still count on 1
> hand how many believed it didn't need a more practical window switcher.
>
> Gnome Shell in its current state, to me, feels like it' s a puzzle. A
> really, awesome, elaborate puzzle. But there's a piece missing right in
> the center of it, making it difficult to look at and see the "full
> picture." A native window/application switcher -on-the-screen- is what's
> missing in my opinion.
>
> YES - We can take Gnome Shell and install Docky. But I'm a realist...
> telling people that is going to cause a "-1" reputation to Gnome Shell
> right off the bat. It should feel complimented in every angle. If you
> don't agree with me, you have nothing to worry about because Gnome Shell
> currently suits YOU then. I'm speaking on behalf of the majority of
> users I've spoken to who also agreed with me that there's that ONE piece
> still missing...
>
> Just my 2 cents. Take it for what it's worth.
>
> Rovanion Luckey wrote:
>    
> > Just one more thing:
> >
> >      GNOME Shell doesn't need a dock, never will, and if you want a
> >      different way to access your applications, just use a dock
> >      yourself or wait until someone develops an add-on for A similar
> >      feature.
> >
> >
> > We do not want to create the shell as a product that when it is out,
> > people will talk about it in terms of: "Yes gnome shell is wicked
> > cool! You just have to add a dock for window switching and then it is
> > totally awesome!". Gnome Shell should be released as a finished
> > product, not something where the general consensus is that you have to
> > change and add a lot of stuff to get it working. It should simply work.
> >
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Yeah, I couldn't agree more.  Some UI element is sorely needed that can 
allow a user to quickly switch between open windows and/or running 
applications without the screen changing or having to remember a key 
combination.  The user should technically not have to every use the 
non-mouse hand for simple tasks IMHO.

The overview is a great concept in many regards, and I think it should 
stay, but after using GNOME Shell for a couple weeks now I have to say 
that, like it or not, it needs something as a window list.  I have 3 
Firefox windows open and 2 terminals on 2 desktops- with the overview 
all the Firefox and all the terminals look identical.  I have to mouse 
over each one to get to what I am looking for.  That's not very 
efficient at all, and quite frankly I am finding it frustrating to the 
point of considering discontinuing it's use.

In other words, it's getting in my way.  A lot.  I would hate to see 
what this does for a novice.

Another thing that you have to realize is that by activating the 
overview, you change the appearance of the entire screen, which can be 
very confusing sometimes.  The change in the entire visual appearance, 
with windows moving around to order then back again, leaves the user 
lost sometimes.  I feel like I never know where things are.

I get that there are people here that don't like window lists or 
"taskbar" type UI elements, but Alt-tab and picking the app or mousing 
over multiple windows in the overview does not add to efficiency in my 
opinion.

Everything else, however, is quite fantastic :)