Re: [orca-list] Gnome3, Orca and ArchLinux

[Michael Whapples <mwhapples aim com>]

By the sound of things you may be using the wrong tools for the job. It 
may be worth you considering what you need and what software will meet 
that need.

From what you describe you want something where you know what you want 
and you can just tell the system what you need. You keep mentioning 
doing stuff from the command line so may be a text console would be 
enough. In the case you need a specific X based application, then you 
probably don't really want all the bells and whistles of gnome and a 
lightweight desktop system such as LXDE or may be XFCE would be better 
suited. In fact to speed things up, when using LXDE you could set it to 
automatically start a terminal window for you so you could just execute 
the command to start the desired application. If it really was just one 
application LXDE could even just start that for you. By using these 
lighter environments you would be using less system resource, X would 
start quicker and so on.

Since the gnome 3 upgrade in archlinux I have been mainly using XFCE, 
the lack of access to desktop icons is one thing I would like fixed, but 
gnome 3 seems to have stopped that anyway so I don't feel I am missing 
out by not using gnome. From my testing, LXDE seems to work fairly well 
as well, but XFCE seems to be a slightly more complete (full featured) 
desktop environment.

On the topic of the mouse:
1. Remember it is not required to use it, there normally is keyboard 
controls.
2. From my experience of using the Mac and voiceover's trackpad 
commander, you tend not to keep switching between the devices, there are 
activities such as browsing the web where you have a prolonged period of 
not needing to do significant keyboard input. Which input device to use 
is probably a personal preference thing but there are reasons why I do 
prefer using the trackpad commander with voiceover on the mac.

Michael Whapples
On 01/-10/37 20:59, Frost wrote:
> On Sat, May 07, 2011 at 10:38:52AM +1000, Jason White wrote:
> > What I have done in Gnome is create desktop launchers for the applications I
> > want, so I can type ctrl-alt-d, type the first character or two of the name of
> > the application and press enter. Sometimes, it's faster to run Gnome-terminal
> > and then start the application from the shell with suitable parameters on the
> > command line.
>         Exactly.  I would rather have a ready terminal and type "ff" to
> load Firefox, than take my hands from the keyboard to use the mouse,
> move a cursor around to find a menu, click another menu, and then click
> on the Firefox selection, return my hands to the keyboard, and then
> finally be ready to start browsing the web.  Mice reduce productivity,
> big time, and what may appear at first glance to be too complex and
> cumbersome, is actually far more fast and efficient.
>
>                                 Michael
>
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