Re: Vincent Untz and the "users that like to hate people"

[Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam whitemice org>]

On Tue, 2013-02-19 at 10:27 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 09:30:08AM +0800, Ma Xiaojun wrote:
> > As you mentioned, YaST is probably providing a "Device Manager".
> > So why "Device Manager" stuff has to be distro specific?
> > Is it something distro specific by itself?
> Thought I already mentioned that there are various tools for this. E.g.
> http://fontanon.org/udevdiscover/

Ah, that reminds me: there is udev-browse [/usr/bin/udev-browse].  That
lets you navigate all the hardware components.   It is about as useful
as the device manager on Windows - as neither will tell you as much
about hardware that isn't working as you'd like to know.

> Also seen loads of others. Still do not understand why this is oh so
> important.

I agree that this is a minor issue.  If you are to the level of hardware
and module debugging what you need is expertise, more than tools.

Rule number one: by quality hardware that is known to work.  

My HP DV7-3085DX worked out-of-the-box.  When it died I replaced it with
an HP DV7-6B32US where - everything worked out of the box;  it has been
a very solid workhorse.  I pre-screen hardware purchases to see if there
are components likely to be problematic; finding hardware that will
just-work has been pretty easy for years now.  Don't buy crap off the
store shelf on a whim.