Re: [Evolution] IMAP and Expunge

According to the manual (where the worms have not eaten yet anyway) and
the tests I performed to double check the documentation given yours and
Art's view of expunge, expunge means something different depending on
context. If a folder is selected, ctrl-e empties just that folder but
leaves the Trash folder in tact. Well, my 200 TB of trash is still there
anyway including messages that used to be in the folder (an IMAP folder
as I said before) that I expunged. Meanwhile, if I expunge the Trash
folder or "empty trash", then they all go. All that seems to be in
accord with the documentation. Sorry if there is a different idea of
what expunge means, but the documentation and system behavior agree in
this case.

Yes, I read about the virtual delete and figured the trash folder was
really just a reference to all of the messages that are hiding in other
folders. How it is actually implemented did not seem all that important
to me since it does have the behavior I am looking for. I can still
imagine how you can expunge a single folder without loosing everything.
If the email is copied to another folder (as move does with IMAP), then
expunging a folder should leave messages in the trash that exist in
another folder and have been deleted as well.

Anyway, I am glad to know that it is the expunge term that has been
causing the confusion. I am just glad that it works the way it does.

On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 12:42 -0700, Pete Biggs wrote:
It is all of the special behaviors of the Trash folder that I like and
use. The only function it has that I do not use is the empty function. I
am perfectly capable of not emptying the trash when exiting Evo and can
avoid clicking on it in the menus. Again I never asked Evo not to
support the emptying function. I simply stated that minus the empty
function, which I am free not to employ, it has all of the behaviors and
attributes that I am looking for.

But you say that you use Expunge - to everyone here that is identical to
"emptying the trash" - the "Trash" folder in Evo is a virtual folder of
all the deleted messages in all your folders - when you expunge a
folder, those messages disappear from the Trash folder.  If your Trash
folder doesn't work like that, then we are talking at cross purposes.

That is why people are talking about round pegs in square holes - the
trash folder is *not* a normal folder - in fact, it's not a folder at


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