Re: [Evolution] IMAP and Expunge

["Niessner, Albert F" <albert f niessner jpl nasa gov>]

* read with a little tongue in cheek *

Because real trash stinks and is not easily searchable while email has no odor and is incredibly easy to 
search (in Evo anyway). Sure, I could create a host of folders and sort my email and file it in a wonderful 
organization that I will never remember, but why waste the time? I could even create a folder and move every 
email into it, but why when Evo already create one for me called Trash? Evo even makes it single key strokes 
or a push of a button to file my email in that single special folder called Trash. I can search it, sort it, 
filter it, pull stuff back out of it, and a host of other useful tasks with it. Best of all, I can ignore it 
until I do not need look at it. So, why should I care that it is called Trash instead of ToLazyToSort?

I understand why you are asking, but I think the analogy of my back yard and real trash is a bit of a reash. 
In a lot of ways, my Trash folder in Evo is just a microcosim for Evo to pretend it is google with. When I 
use google, the item I am searching for has value only for the moment I am searching for it. I had no value 
yesterday and probably will not tomorrow. We do not ask people to delete their websites and pages because 
they are not valuable to us now. Instead we ask google to separate the immediately useful from the everyday 
trivia. Email is the same way. What I receive today may not be of value at that moment or may have value 
again in the future. My Trash folder thus becomes the glod of information and Evo my search engine.

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From: evolution-list-bounces gnome org [evolution-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of Pete Biggs [pete biggs 
org uk]
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 04:03
To: evolution-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] IMAP and Expunge

On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 11:16 -0700, Al Niessner wrote:
> I understand the desire for the Expunge. However, it is making life hard
> for me with IMAP. I have several filters that move mail around, which
> with IMAP simply marks them for deletion. In Evolution everything looks
> great, but I am not always using Evolution. When I use the web
> interface, all those moved emails are still in the Inbox. Not so
> satisfactory. I went back to my filter rules and looked for the action
> "Expunge" folder "Inbox" so that the IMAP side would do the right thing.
> However, no such action exists.
>
> I do not want to "Empty Trash" on exit because I like searching my 300
> GB of trash once in a while for the scrap of information that I almost
> lost.

But in Evo, Trash is a virtual folder that just shows all messages
marked as deleted in all your folders - so expunging will also remove
your precious trash.

I've never really understood this desire to use deleted messages as a
filing system - if you need to keep them, don't delete them, move them
to another folder.  You wouldn't keep all your trash from your house
piled up in your back yard in case you might possibly need, so why do it
with email?

P.

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