Re: Still need a hint for undecorated windows

[Philipp Lohmann - Sun Germany - ham02 - Hamburg <Philipp Lohmann Sun COM>]

Sasha Vasko wrote:
> As far as adding a property to request no frame decor, I think Motif
> hints are perfectly good, having an advantage of completely covering the
> purpose and being around for long enought for ppl to take notice. Quite
> honestly I think that any WM concious of user wishes, should provide
> configuration means for user to define what apps should and should not
> get decorations.

Then you should add Motif WM hinst to the spec. Just saying most WM's have
them anyway not a complete spec does make ;-) If _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE is 
supposed
to replace Motif WM hints (as stated in the spec), then it SHOULD do so.

> Its getting kinda silly with all the apps trying to push window managers
> around in order to implement some funky ideas of theirs.

On the other hand it's also getting silly that applications actually 
have to push so many window managers around to achieve the functionality 
they need. I never understood the reasoning why WM developers supposedly 
are so much more sane about UI then application developers. But perhaps 
that's just me.

Anyway just saying to application developers that they should not 
implement their "funky ideas" just because it's not a WM developer's 
"funky idea" is a little - well - arrogant, don't you think ?

Just my 2 cents, pl

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