Re: [orca-list] The use case(s) for "frozen" flat review?

[kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com>]

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hi
Yup, that worked flawlessly. Simulating a left click caused the focus
to immediately jump. WOuld you be willing to modify the bookmark code
to jump focus? I only ask because this is what happens in gecko and
webkit content, flat review jumps to the bookmarked position, and so
does the system carrot. I"m not sure about the focus, but I believe
the focus follows the carrot, and so moves anyway. THis would provide
a consistant experience. That said, I don't want to disrupt any users
who like how the bookmarks work now, and if you changed it you'd then
probably have to make a config option to change it, and that would be
one more option someone would have to remember to set, so I'm not at
all sure what to do now. But this is great. I now have universal
bookmarks! yay!
Thanks
Kendell clark


Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> Hey Kendell.
>
> This is progress! :)
>
> I didn't write the bookmark code, but my understanding is that
> what you describe is the intended/expected behavior: Bookmarks do
> not automatically change focus. Just like flat review does not 
> automatically change focus. But once flat review is over your
> desired item, could you synthesize a click on it (using the
> existing flat review commands for doing so)?
>
> --joanie
>
> On 03/02/2015 09:42 PM, kendell clark wrote:
> > hi Well, I tried again, this time setting the bookmark to the 
> > audiobooks folder, and this time the bookmark did as expected.
> > Orca immediately jumped to the item, only folat review moved
> > only, orca did not set the focus to the icon. I tested this by
> > highlighting the downloads folder, before pressing orca+1 to jump
> > to the bookmark. Orca announced "audiobooks" and flat review
> > jumped, but orca's focus was still on downloads. I'm stumped
> > Thanks Kendell clark
> >
> >
> > kendell clark wrote:
> > > hi
> >
> > > THis is wonderful! I didn't know that bookmarks worked like
> > > this. UNfortunately I couldn't get it to work the way you
> > > described. TO test, I went into my home folder, and highlighted
> > > a playlist, called the big question.xspf in nautilus. I then
> > > pressed alt+orca+1 to set a bookmark. After a sedond delay
> > > which I don't get in gecko controlls, orca says bookmark
> > > created. I then pressed shift+tab to the ... what's it called,
> > > the navigation pane, and highlighted the home list item, then
> > > pressed orca+1 to jump to the book mark. Nothing. Orca remained
> > > focused on the home list item, and flat review didn't move. Is
> > > orca's focus supposed to jump to the bookmarked location, as
> > > well as flat review, or just flat review?> I'm using gnome 3.14
> > > with nautilus 3.14 and orca master, updated about ten minutes
> > > ago Thanks Kendell clark
> >
> > > Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > > Hey Kendell.
> >
> > > > I think we're getting somewhere. Answers inline.
> >
> > > > On 03/02/2015 09:08 PM, kendell clark wrote:
> >
> > > > > content. WOuld it be at all possible to make bookmarks 
> > > > > general purpose? THat is, I could set bookmarks in text 
> > > > > documents, and jump to my place there? I could set a
> > > > > bookmark on a particular file or folder icon in nautilus,
> > > > > caja, etc and jump to that icon later?
> >
> > > > This already works. I did the following steps:
> >
> > > > 1. Get into Nautilus. On the left-hand pane I pressed Down 
> > > > Arrow until "Trash" was highlighted. Then I pressed Orca +
> > > > Alt + 1 to set a bookmark there.
> >
> > > > 2. Made sure I was nowhere near the Trash icon -- but still
> > > > in Nautilus of course as the bookmarks are specific to the
> > > > app you're in. In particular, I arrowed up to "Home" so that
> > > > it was the selected/highlighted item. Then, I tabbed to the
> > > > icon view and arrowed to the far other side and down. In
> > > > summary: I'm not in flat review, I'm not in the widget with
> > > > my new bookmark, the selected item in that widget is not the 
> > > > bookmarked item. (Have I proven to you that my bookmark and
> > > > I are quite disconnected? <grins>)
> >
> > > > 3. I pressed Orca + 1 to jump to the bookmark I set
> > > > previously. Orca immediately said "Trash" and put me into
> > > > flat review at the location of the "Trash" item.
> >
> > > > Is that what you're trying to accomplish? And would this
> > > > solve the original use case you raised?
> >
> > > > BTW, I've read the rest of your reply re flat review and find
> > > >  that information quite useful. Thanks! But I'm now more 
> > > > interested in seeing if we can solve your bookmark issue. :)
> >
> > > > --joanie
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