Re: [orca-list] Orca & GSettings

[trev saunders gmail com]

Hi,

> > no false.  While they aren't a "desktop" as a lot of people think of =
> it awesome / ion / fluxbox are configured through the same unix =
> abstraction people have used for the past 30 years of text files.
> > this would mean that a user would have to have gsettings installed to =
> use / build orca right?  Unless you somehow provide a =
> --without-gsettings options to configure I am going to have a problem =
> with this.
> > basically the problem is text files have worked for many programs for =
> atleast 35 years, so we can have every expectation that they will =
> continue to work perfectly well on any unix system with no dependancies. =
>  On the other hand gnome itself has existed for less than 20 I don't =
> know the exact number, and is already changing the way it does things =
> (gconf -> gsettings) so as I see it expecting it to change again is very =
> reasonable.  Also we can put whatever we want into a file a api =
> restricts what we can do.  Why do we want to use a api that restricts us =
> and will change when we can use something that will work fine and not =
> change?
> > =20
> > Trev
>
>
> Hi Trev,
>
>       Only one thought. If text plain files works for you is then an =
> universal solution to any Orca's user?

I think it's fairly reasonable to expect people using a unix system to edit text files to configure things.  
I know that in mac land things are different (I looked at your email headers).   I don't mind a gui existing, 
but I won't right it, and I don't want its existance to force me to instal packages.

>       I don't think so.

Yes unix is different from windows or your mac, but I'd argue that you spend a lot longer as an expert with a 
tool than as someone learning it thus the tool should be effecient for a expert, and provide documentation to 
teach the new person instead of simply being easy for the new person to use and ineffecient for an expert.

>       With our planned settings system you can implement a backend=20
> based on text files if you want. Only for your old-school needs ;)

you don't always get a choice in the matter, what do you do if X wakes up dead? or you need to do something 
remotely?  While I don't know what this will actually look like that seems like a lot more reasonable plan 
than what you seemed to be proposing friday.

Trev