[orca-list] eclipse bugs - was: Re: Developing GTK applications (in Python) as a blind developer

[Michael Whapples <mwhapples aim com>]

You may like to folow the two bugs 525316 and 525318 I have filed for
orca working with eclipse. I will try and file some others that I
mentioned but I need to find the time later for those.

Michael Whapples
On Sat, 2008-03-29 at 14:39 +0530, krishnakant Mane wrote:
> hi Michael and the rest.
> eclipse gives me similar problems when I tested this last night.
> further more, code complition (intellisence) does not work.
> I should get the list of options announced and with the up and down
> arrow I must be able to select the option and hit enter.
> that does not happen at all.
> I think netbeens will be a good option as an accessibility case.  we
> are alredy considering glade3 so most of the concepts relating to form
> design will work here as well.
> regards.
> Kk
> On 29/03/2008, Michael Whapples <mwhapples aim com> wrote:
> > To add to that previous message, eclipse still seems to have the
> > problems with orca 2.22.0. I think I have narrowed down one of the bugs,
> > the project explorer seems to get less reliable when you have more items
> > in the tree open.
> >
> > I also would like to add I have made some initial attempts at using
> > netbeans, but this seems to have problems for useage although it may
> > actually provide the accessibility information. By that previous
> > statement I mean that I was encountering performance issues where things
> > seemed to totally lock up (either for a time where it would make it
> > unproductive, or even long enough I had come to the conclusion it may
> > never continue without restarting it).
> >
> > I will try to get round to submitting some of those eclipse and orca
> > bugs. I am getting these problems on more than one system, anyone else
> > have these issues?
> >
> > Michael Whapples
> > On Sat, 2008-03-29 at 00:12 +0530, krishnakant Mane wrote:
> > > hi michael,
> > > thanks for the comprehensive listing of problems with eclipse.
> > > I hope you will come up with some more reports.
> > > by the way can any one tell me what will be the orca version on ubuntu
> > > hardy when it is released in the next month?
> > > will speech dispatcher by any chance come as an option?
> > > regards.
> > > Krishnakant
> > > On 28/03/2008, Michael Whapples <mwhapples aim com> wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 18:11 +0000, Jon wrote:
> > > > > Orca already supports per-application-scripting.
> > > > >
> > > > > I recall that someone previously talked about eclipse, if you search
> > the
> > > > > mail archives you can see what they had to say about accessibility.
> > > > > Sorry i cant remember what the conclusion was.
> > > >
> > > > Eclipse is reasonably accessible, but has a few issues that scripting
> > > > may help with. Most noticeable problems being:
> > > > Junit test results do not get status read, this is due to the coloured
> > > > mark being an image and not having accessible text information. You can
> > > > work round this by either getting eclipse to only show failed tests, or
> > > > by seeing which have a stack trace associated with them. I was able to
> > > > train the images in window-eyes on windows but I think that there is no
> > > > way to do this on linux.
> > > > Code completion does not always show the code being completed until a
> > > > block is complete or you move off the line and back. For this you do see
> > > > the cursor move along on a braille desplay but the text doesn't show
> > > > until the part is complete. Hopefully this might be solveable with
> > > > scripting.
> > > > In time when using eclipse for a long time, sometimes orca announces the
> > > > wrong item in tree views (the package explorer tree is an example) or
> > > > sometimes it just doesn't get anything as the selected item. I don't
> > > > know where the solution will need to come from here.
> > > > Braille routing keys don't work in the code editor, hopefully scripting
> > > > might help.
> > > > Braille doesn't always update when cursoring in the console window (the
> > > > eclipse console).
> > > >
> > > > It will help you alot if you learn about the eclipse shortcut keys.
> > > >
> > > > The problems I have stated were found using orca 2.20.3, but I have just
> > > > updated to orca 2.22.0 this evening and will say if this has changed
> > > > once I have had the chance to try it out.
> > > >
> > > > Michael Whapples
> > > > > -Jon
> >
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