Re: [orca-list] Developing GTK applications (in Python) as a blind developer

[Michael Whapples <mwhapples aim com>]

To add to that previous message, eclipse still seems to have the
problems with orca 2.22.0. I think I have narrowed down one of the bugs,
the project explorer seems to get less reliable when you have more items
in the tree open.

I also would like to add I have made some initial attempts at using
netbeans, but this seems to have problems for useage although it may
actually provide the accessibility information. By that previous
statement I mean that I was encountering performance issues where things
seemed to totally lock up (either for a time where it would make it
unproductive, or even long enough I had come to the conclusion it may
never continue without restarting it).

I will try to get round to submitting some of those eclipse and orca
bugs. I am getting these problems on more than one system, anyone else
have these issues?

Michael Whapples
On Sat, 2008-03-29 at 00:12 +0530, krishnakant Mane wrote:
> hi michael,
> thanks for the comprehensive listing of problems with eclipse.
> I hope you will come up with some more reports.
> by the way can any one tell me what will be the orca version on ubuntu
> hardy when it is released in the next month?
> will speech dispatcher by any chance come as an option?
> regards.
> Krishnakant
> On 28/03/2008, Michael Whapples <mwhapples aim com> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 18:11 +0000, Jon wrote:
> > > Orca already supports per-application-scripting.
> > >
> > > I recall that someone previously talked about eclipse, if you search the
> > > mail archives you can see what they had to say about accessibility.
> > > Sorry i cant remember what the conclusion was.
> >
> > Eclipse is reasonably accessible, but has a few issues that scripting
> > may help with. Most noticeable problems being:
> > Junit test results do not get status read, this is due to the coloured
> > mark being an image and not having accessible text information. You can
> > work round this by either getting eclipse to only show failed tests, or
> > by seeing which have a stack trace associated with them. I was able to
> > train the images in window-eyes on windows but I think that there is no
> > way to do this on linux.
> > Code completion does not always show the code being completed until a
> > block is complete or you move off the line and back. For this you do see
> > the cursor move along on a braille desplay but the text doesn't show
> > until the part is complete. Hopefully this might be solveable with
> > scripting.
> > In time when using eclipse for a long time, sometimes orca announces the
> > wrong item in tree views (the package explorer tree is an example) or
> > sometimes it just doesn't get anything as the selected item. I don't
> > know where the solution will need to come from here.
> > Braille routing keys don't work in the code editor, hopefully scripting
> > might help.
> > Braille doesn't always update when cursoring in the console window (the
> > eclipse console).
> >
> > It will help you alot if you learn about the eclipse shortcut keys.
> >
> > The problems I have stated were found using orca 2.20.3, but I have just
> > updated to orca 2.22.0 this evening and will say if this has changed
> > once I have had the chance to try it out.
> >
> > Michael Whapples
> > > -Jon