Re: [orca-list] Developing GTK applications (in Python) as a blind developer



To add to that previous message, eclipse still seems to have the
problems with orca 2.22.0. I think I have narrowed down one of the bugs,
the project explorer seems to get less reliable when you have more items
in the tree open.

I also would like to add I have made some initial attempts at using
netbeans, but this seems to have problems for useage although it may
actually provide the accessibility information. By that previous
statement I mean that I was encountering performance issues where things
seemed to totally lock up (either for a time where it would make it
unproductive, or even long enough I had come to the conclusion it may
never continue without restarting it).

I will try to get round to submitting some of those eclipse and orca
bugs. I am getting these problems on more than one system, anyone else
have these issues?

Michael Whapples
On Sat, 2008-03-29 at 00:12 +0530, krishnakant Mane wrote:
hi michael,
thanks for the comprehensive listing of problems with eclipse.
I hope you will come up with some more reports.
by the way can any one tell me what will be the orca version on ubuntu
hardy when it is released in the next month?
will speech dispatcher by any chance come as an option?
regards.
Krishnakant
On 28/03/2008, Michael Whapples <mwhapples aim com> wrote:
On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 18:11 +0000, Jon wrote:
Orca already supports per-application-scripting.

I recall that someone previously talked about eclipse, if you search the
mail archives you can see what they had to say about accessibility.
Sorry i cant remember what the conclusion was.

Eclipse is reasonably accessible, but has a few issues that scripting
may help with. Most noticeable problems being:
Junit test results do not get status read, this is due to the coloured
mark being an image and not having accessible text information. You can
work round this by either getting eclipse to only show failed tests, or
by seeing which have a stack trace associated with them. I was able to
train the images in window-eyes on windows but I think that there is no
way to do this on linux.
Code completion does not always show the code being completed until a
block is complete or you move off the line and back. For this you do see
the cursor move along on a braille desplay but the text doesn't show
until the part is complete. Hopefully this might be solveable with
scripting.
In time when using eclipse for a long time, sometimes orca announces the
wrong item in tree views (the package explorer tree is an example) or
sometimes it just doesn't get anything as the selected item. I don't
know where the solution will need to come from here.
Braille routing keys don't work in the code editor, hopefully scripting
might help.
Braille doesn't always update when cursoring in the console window (the
eclipse console).

It will help you alot if you learn about the eclipse shortcut keys.

The problems I have stated were found using orca 2.20.3, but I have just
updated to orca 2.22.0 this evening and will say if this has changed
once I have had the chance to try it out.

Michael Whapples

-Jon







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