Re: [orca-list] Developing GTK applications (in Python) as a blind developer

[Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>]

Jon:

This is definitely a good thing to raise with the Glade folks.  I think 
the best thing to do would be to log bugs with the 'glade3' component at 
http://bugzilla.gnome.org, with one problem per bug.  Feel free to add 
me to the CC list and also add 'accessibility' as a keyword for easier 
tracking.

If the bugs come as constructive reports from a community member such as 
yourself, I hope they will be positively received.  It's also a good 
time in the GNOME 2.24 cycle to raise the awareness.

Thanks!

Will

Jon wrote:
> Indeed, i have been doing the same thing, trying to work out how to work 
> glade-2 or glade-3.
>
> The ironic thing is that the accessibility tab has a wheel-chair 
> picture, but there is no associated text.
>
> Further more, the property section, the fields are reasonably ok, but 
> none of the associated property labels are read. I am assuming that they 
> are not using the "labelled-by" or "label-for" tags that they suggest 
> other people to use.
>
> yes, one could edit glade files by hand, or have them created using text 
> transforms, but this relies on being able to remember gtk widget names, 
> properties and list of associated signals.
>
> it would be good if we could have an accessible version of glade-3.
>
> -Jon
> On Wed 26/03/2008 at 12:40:03, Mario Lang wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > I need to write myself a bit of GTK code in Python.
> > I am blind, so I am going to use the finally resulting app via Orca.
> > The problem I seem to have is that most (or all?) good
> > examples on how to develop a GTK app suggest to use Glade.
> > While the glade description file is text, and in theory could be
> > edited by hand, it seems like too complicated to do.  But
> > the glade-editor frontend is not really accessible to me.
> > How do other blind developer deal with this?
> > I see orca uses glade as well.  Am I guessing right that
> > this part of Orca is done by a sighted developer?  If not, how
> > do you cope with it?
> >
> > Any suggestions would be very appreciated.
> >
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