Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

[Ryan Peters <sloshy45 sbcglobal net>]

On 05/22/2011 10:23 AM, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
> On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 06:27, Tim Murphy<tnmurphy gmail com>  wrote:
> > It's extremely difficult to discuss anything if you think things "are the
> > user's fault" in user interfaces.
> To make it absolutely crystal clear; you haven't been speaking to
> anyone who represents GNOME in any way. The signal-to-noise ratio on
> this list has gotten so bad that actual GNOME contributors have
> largely stopped reading it. Owen asked this thread to stop for
> precisely this reason. And yet here we are several days later...
I hoped that it stopped a long time ago; this thread it just going in 
circles, as I said. Person A comes in and complains GNOME is unusable, 
Person B that may or may not represent GNOME (as I don't, to be honest) 
comes in and says suggestions and clarifies the design, and then Person 
A says, in general, "no, the desktop should be like X", and then Person 
B (and/or C, another person trying to help) asks why and says that the 
current setup should work fine, and it keeps going on and on like that.

Anyways, to clarify "the user's fault" thing (I did not mean to sound 
rude): lets say you had someone who asked a major car manufacturer why 
their cars didn't have pedals like a bike. They say, "This is a 
completely different design; it was designed so you do not need pedals 
to move forward". The user of the vehicle doesn't try to get used to the 
whole accelerator/brake combo found in cars today, and complains about 
how their vehicles are "unusable" and "restricting" by only allowing 
this setup. Likewise, I find that the window list is completely 
unnecessary; if you still use the mouse a lot, you can just flick your 
mouse to the corner and click the window you wish.

That said, as Jason mentioned, I do not represent GNOME. I just really 
want this thread to die because we get these same threads so often that 
go around in circles about the same issues that were discussed at length 
a long time ago (and many times recently as well).