Re: [Evolution] downloads page

[Tom Davies <tomdavies04 yahoo co uk>]

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From: N B Day <nbday fastmail fm>
To: evolution-list gnome org 
Sent: Friday, 23 August 2013, 20:19
Subject: Re: [Evolution] downloads page


On Fri, 2013-08-23 at 15:30 -0300, BAPR wrote:

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> Ubuntu is presently shipping with evolution 3.6.4-0ubuntu1
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Are you sure about this?  Evolution is no longer the *default* MUA in
Ubuntu, but reasonably up-to-date versions continue to be offered in the
repositories.  I'm not on Saucy now, but I'm sure that offers evo 3.8.x.
Saucy (13.10, to be released in mid-October) still uses the evolution
calendaring functions for their version of the GNOME calendar too.

> Tom's suggestion of providing a link for Ubuntu (and other) users has
> merit

In the (IMO) very unlikely event that Ubuntu drops evolution entirely
there will certainly be people on the outside packaging it and offering
it in PPAs.  


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Hi :)  
In other projects i have seen 2 main approaches to this sort of situation and a 3rd option that doesn't seem 
to get relied on (thankfully)  

1.  Is to have a page with a "Table of Contents" at the top with headings for "Debian Family", "Redhat 
Family" and then maybe a couple others since there are only about 4 different package management systems.  
Adobe have managed to cut it down to a drop-down so that the whole page changes when you select the 
appropriate family but i think that variant is just asking for trouble.  

2.  One page deals with the normal way and then lists the 1 or 2 odd exceptions.  For example in one of the 
LibreOffice wiki-pages about re-naming the User Profile it gives
"For almost all distros
    * /home/<user name>/.libreoffice/3/user
There is always one that wants to be different for almost any 'rule'. This time with openSUSE apparently
    * /home/<user name>/.lo3/
NB: the openSUSE way allows the installation of downloaded versions alongside the openSUSE version of 
LibreOffice. More about openSUSE version of Libreoffice.
"
The "more about" was a clickable link to the  openSuSE page

3.  Links to external documentation held in each different distros wiki and no attempt to check to see if the 
link still works let alone whether their information is still up-to-date.  



The main reason i am suggesting Evo host a wiki-page on the Evo wiki is that Ubuntu Community don't seem to 
be very reliable with regards to Evo, so the choice seems to be 

1.  to give up on all Ubuntu users and blame them for the failings of their distro 

2.  to take control of the situation in-house

I have just checked which version of Evo is available on the 12.04, which is going to be supported in some 
way  until late April 2017.  So questions about the 3.2.3 release of Evo are going to keep cropping up on 
this list for the next 4 years!  Personally i think it would be easiest to have 1 link that can be given to 
cover how to upgrade from that rather than try to remember specifics about the peculiarities of Ubuntu's 
fairly unique PPA system each time.  

Regards from
Tom :)