Re: [Evolution] Re: Re: Re: New evolution user questions

[Not Zed <notzed ximian com>]

On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 20:04 +0100, Michael Graham wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:34:27 -0400, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 18:33 +0100, Michael Graham wrote:
> >> >> The default location? Whenever I add any account the default has always
> >> >> been the e-mail address. But I've managed to get it to read my local mail
> >> >> to there by changing the default location -- My e-mail address -- to the
> >> >> "default" location -- "On This Computer". But it was in no way clear that
> >> >> I would be able to do that.
> >> > 
> >> > huh???
> >> > 
> >> > IMAP accounts will place a toplevel tree node in the folder-tree under
> >> > which the folders will appear. The name is whatever you gave the account
> >> > (by default it uses the email address)
> >> > 
> >> > what do you mean you changed the default location?
> >> 
> >> I mean that when Not Zed said that the default location for pop and local
> >> accounts was "On This Computer" it wasn't the the default for me,
> > 
> > uhhh.... for pop3 and "Local Delivery", this is where all mail gets
> > delivered by default (unless you setup filters to move it elsewhere)
>  
> OK since no one seems to believe me on this I've taken some screenshots
> http://fommil.homeunix.org/~mick/evo/ I realise that I could easily have
> changed the text before taking the screen grab but I hope that you will
> take me on my word or at least follow what I've done and get the same
> result

Well, that is the name of the account yes.  "On this computer" isn't an account, it is just mail which has been downloaded to the local machine.

You are setting up a pop account.  Pop is an acronym for "post office protocol", it is just a drop-point, mail is downloaded from there and copied locally for your client to access.  If you have multiple pop accounts, they all get downloaded to the same location - "Inbox" in "On this computer" in the evolution case.

> >>  And that I could
> >> change this location to "On This Computer" if I wanted, but I didn't know
> >> that you could and it's not obvious that you can have 2 accounts with the
> >> same name.
> > 
> > It is a bug if 2 accounts have the same name, you should not do this.
>
> It no longer works I must have done something crazy for it to work the
> first time :/ go figure

The account name is just for humans to read, internally we have a unique id, so calling them the same thing is potentially confusing, but not fatal.  The 'from address' is also another string, and not related to the account name or account id, other than providing a hint for the initial setting of the account name.

> >> >> >> I've noticed that evolution creates a "Junk" (virtual?) folder but I
> >> >> >> haven't asked evolution not to check for spam so why does it create
> >> >> >> that folder? Again can I get rid of it?
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > It cannot be removed.
> >> >> 
> >> >> That is... disappointing.
> >> > 
> >> > it doesn't create the folder, it's a virtual folder that doesn't
> >> > actually exist on the server.
> >> 
> >> Indeed that's why I said "(virtual?) folder". But, because the folder is
> >> virtual it seems to me to be wasteful of evolution to create this folder
> >> when I have told it not to check for spam. Moreover if I actually have a
> >> real Junk folder it is hidden by evolutions virtual folder.
> >> 
> > 
> > wasteful how? if you don't open it, there's no added processing.
>
> I never knew that it never updated virtual folders till you clicked on
> them, how does it know that there is new spam if it doesn't check each
> file in the rest of the folders until you click the trash folder?

Well, trash has nothing to do with spam anyway, that is the junk folder :).