On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 15:12 -0400, Jamie McCracken wrote: > On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 20:57 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Tue, 18.08.09 14:48, Jamie McCracken (jamie mccrack googlemail com) wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 20:26 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > > > > Le mardi 18 août 2009, à 20:19 +0200, Philip Van Hoof a écrit : > > > > > We'll do our best and are committed to formulate our answers in a > > > > > non-vague way and improve the communication of the project's members, > > > > > about the project, towards the community. > > > > > > > > Maybe just clearly state what tracker (or tracker-store, the thread > > > > already lost me :/) will bring to GNOME if integrated. I don't want to > > > > hear about ontology, sparql, data store, indexer, or whatever. I want to > > > > know what it will bring me as a user, and what opportunity it gives me as a > > > > hacker, for my modules. > > > > > > > > So, yeah. Just list use cases. (Somebody already gave a few examples in > > > > a mail, iirc, but it got lost in the noise for me). > > > > > > tracker would provide a centralised storage of metadata which means > > > multiple apps can share metadata safely, get notifications when it > > > changes and know at design time what metadata is potentially available > > > (via a schema similar to gconf) > > > > Seriously. I cannot parse this. > > well that was my best attempt - sorry it would not be productive for me > to go and on about this > I'm afraid I underspend what you mean as far as technology is concerned but I don't see how it would improve my "desktop experience". > > > > > All metadata can be cross referenced in queries allowing for powerful > > > search capabilities all via a uniform api and search language > > > > > > Use cases: > > > > > > 1) Centralised storage, tagging, search and query of bookmarks for > > > Epiphany > > > > Uh? What's the point of 'centralizing' it? I mean Epiphany can do all > > of this just fine anyway? You want to sell tracker to me listing > > features that Epiphany can do anyway? > > > > Epiphany does not share its metadata with anyone else nor can you cross > query it > I believe that gnome do and/or deskbar do it quite well w/out tracker. > > > 2) Zeitgeist integration of events with said search and query > > > capabilities > > > > Hmm, I cannot really parse this either. > > > > > 3) Centralisation of all tags (nautilus, zeitgeist, fspot. > > > facebook/flickr etc). No need to duplicate tagging in different apps > > > > Hmm, why should this be in tracker? not in gvfs? > > flickr/facebook > Sorry. But I don't have English parser good enough to parse it. ---- As far as understood tracker is designed to be something like WinFS. So I operate in terms of peoples, tags and objects instead of folders and files. So user do not think "Wait, where I get the information when I meet Joe's to drink a beer or two" but I search "message from Joe containing meet" which gives back all messages from Joe containing meet. Or - I've seen a picture of myself and my schoolmate/workmate/soulmate etc. in some situation (school trip, conference etc.) but where it was. I enter "picture of (me and Alice) tagged London" - and here it is - it was posted on Facebook/Flickr (is in epiphany cache?). Cool - for sure. Useful - I don't think so - however I may be wrong. I guess that we should wait until 0.7 release and have it as optional dependency or set of plugins. If it is good enough - we should include it.
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