Re: [orca-list] Accessibility broken under Wayland Fedora 31

[Halim Sahin <halim sahin t-online de>]

Hi,

https://www.spinics.net/lists/pulse-audio/msg06949.html
HTH.
Halim

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 06:04:33PM +0100, Didier Spaier wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Sorry, I have to disagree with both of you <smile>.
>
> Le 11/11/2019 à 15:28, Michał Zegan a écrit :
> > W dniu 11.11.2019 o 12:51, Halim Sahin pisze:
> > > Hi,
> > > I am aware that it can be configured to use dmix because I've written
> > > it many times in this list and speechd lists.
> > >
> > > But it doesn't change the fact that pulseaudio developers do not
> > > recommend to use dmix.
>
> Where did you read that pulseaudio developers do not recommend to use
> dmix? Why? And when did they make this recommendation?
> Please provide links to sustain this claim of which I am not aware.
>
> I have read on Archwiki (so not from a pulseaudio developer)  under
> "ALSA/dmix without grabbing hardware device", link:
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio#ALSA/dmix_without_grabbing_hardware_device
> this "Note: This section describes alternative configuration, which is
> generally not recommended." However the Arch user who wrote that don't
> say why he or she why this would be "not generally recommended".
> All I know is this is the default setting in Slint and nobody complained
> about it so far.
>
> > > Using dmix doesn't resolve the mentioned usb headset problem as well.
>
> I fail to see how this issue is related to the other one.
> Anyway a solution is proposed in ArchWiki, link:
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#Automatically_switch_to_Bluetooth_or_USB_headset
> Did you try it?
>
> > Please never say that you solved an issue when it was in fact a
> > workaround. Even worse, an unrecommended workaround. And I don't believe
> > they didn't recommend it for a reason. So, these issues are not and were
> > never fixed, they are just something that can be at least partially
> > worked around.
>
> If they did recommend it for the reason, this reason should be stated.
> Where has it been stated? Me, I will never follow a technical advice
> given without a stated rationale that I can (try to) understand.
>
> Anyway this is the Orca mailing list, not a Fedora or PulseAudio mailing
> list, and I very much doubt that posting about these issue here will
> make either the developers of PulseAudio or the maintainers of Fedora
> aware of it, let alone take care of it as they probably won't read this
> thread and even if they do, the will probably want to have it stated
> instead in some kind of bug tracker or issues list.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Didier