Re: [orca-list] Selecting text in Firefox, was: Re: orca-list gnome org



Hi Chris,

This may look a bit dull, but try selecting the quote using Shift + End

On my system, using Shift + Down arrow will select the quote and the rest of the page. Although orca is still announce what's being selected.

FYI, I'm using Orca 3.26 with voxin, so  I guess the problem is somewhere else.

Best Regards

Edhoari Setiyoso
On 02/19/2018 03:57 AM, Christopher Gilland wrote:

OK, I'm totally now at a loss. If you, or anyone else can hop into this thread and try helping, I'd appreciate it.


I did what you said with these commands. I got Firefox to run, after doing the last command, the...


./firefox


I heard the little Ubuntu Bongo sound, then Firefox came up and asked me if I wanted to make it the default. Given that I didn't yet know if this would fix things, I said no, for the time being, but I left the box checked to always check on launch. This way, if we ever get this fixed, I can easily enough set it.


I then hit CTRL+L, and typed in my own website.


http://www.gshministry.org


Once the page loaded, I down arrowed until I got to the heading saying Our favorite quote


Below that line, it says, if you down arrow one time past that heading:


A smile on your face shows God's grace.


On that line, I hit the home key, and I heard the high pitch A, to indicate I'm at the start of the line.


I then hit shift+down arrow, to select that line of text. Orca said absolutely nothing. Not even in the 52 ESR build of Firefox.


I tried replicating this on an Ubuntu 16.04 64 bit system, this way I wasn't on a test build, in case something in 18.04 is broken, but even that didn't work. It appears the text is correctly being selected, but Orca just isn't reporting so. I remember this being a problem in earlier versions of Orca, but if I am understanding you, and others correctly, you're claming, not trying to put proverbial words in you all's mouths, that when I did that shift+down arrow, Orca should have spoken and told me that that line of text was selected.


Do you all think that Voxin is causing this to not work? I don't see any reason whatsoever for that to be the case, but... I'd not even know how to get back to ESpeak to find out if it works there. I believe you all entirely that this should work. I'm just saying for me, it's not doing so no matter what the heck I try.


I wonder if I updated to Orca 3.27 if that would help. Again, I'm on 3.26.0, according to what it says at the terminal when I do


orca -v


I'd not have even the remote slightest idea though how to go about updating to 3.27. Software Center, nor apt will let me get it, so I suspect, I'd have to probably build it from source, wouldn't I?


I should probably add one more thing. Orca isn't telling me in Thunderbird either when I select text, as I hear you all saying it should be doing.


Is there possibly a setting in the Orca+spacebar settings that might be preventing this from working, if I had unchecked? I confess, guilty as charged, I'm really running out of things here to try.


Chris.

On 2/18/2018 4:28 AM, Edhoari Setiyoso wrote:

Ok, lets try another approach

If your system 32-bit, use this link

https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-esr-latest-ssl&os=linux&lang=en-US

If it's 64 bit, use this link

https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-esr-latest-ssl&os=linux64&lang=en-US

That's download link from Mozilla. After downloading, with terminal navigate to download folder, extract it.

I assume you're familiar with linux, but I will write down the steps anyway

  • tar -xf firefox-52.6.0esr.tar.bz2
  • cd firefox
  • ./firefox

It should get it up and running. Check if your selection problem is gone with 52 ESR.

If everything is working, create a symbolic link

  • sudo ln -s [yourFirefoxESRDirectory]/firefox /usr/local/bin/firefox-esr

Then you can use Alt+F2 and type firefox-esr

Best Regards

Edhoari Setiyoso
On 02/18/2018 01:57 PM, Christopher Gilland wrote:

OK, so, I think I got the PPA repo added, but now, when I do:


sudo apt-get install firefox-esr


it tells me there is no installation candidate.


Yes, I did remember first to do:


sudo apt-get update


So, I'm not totally sure what is going on. Any suggestions?


Chris.

On 2/18/2018 12:14 AM, Edhoari Setiyoso wrote:

Hi Chris,

Perhaps you would like to try fall back plan using Firefox 52 ESR and see how it works.

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jonathonf/firefox-esr
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install firefox-esr

After installed, you can press Alt+F2, type firefox-esr and press enter.

If it works then you may create shortcut afterward.

From what I know, the newer version Firefox still has some accessibility issues but they're working on it.

Hope this helps

Edhoari Setiyoso
On 02/18/2018 06:57 AM, Christopher Gilland wrote:

Wo, then I'm above you. I'm running 3.26.0. not 3.18 anything.


This is indeed Ubuntu 18.04 Bionic Desktop, and Firefox version 57.0.1 64 bit. The steps I'm using to try selecting text are:


1. Navigate to a website of my choice, and be sure I'm in browse mode, not focus mode.


2. go to the beginning of a line of text by arrowing down to the line of text, then pressing home to get to the beginning of the line.


3. Press shift+down arrow to select that line of text.


Expected result, Orca should read to me what is selected.


Actual result, text indeed is selected, but Orca is still remaining silent.


So yeah, if some of you are actually getting this to work where Orca isn't silent, and does indeed ell you what is happening as you select, then I've no idea how you're getting it to work with Orca 3.26.0


Realize this is not Orca Master or anything of sort. That's why I said, I don't know how to update it, but was hoping you all could give me the exact commands based on my above configuration.


Also, if my problem is that Firefox needs updating for this to work, then I'll need those commands, as I admittedly don't know how to update Firefox short of doing so through apt, or through software center which both clame it's totally up to date.


Chris.



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