Re: [orca-list] new a11y Dev Team was Most accessible IDE for java

[chrys87 web de]

Howdy Guys,

That topic brings me to something i discussed on sonar list a few weeks ago. The problem in a11y is more 
general. There are not many companys that are intrested in provide good a11y support on linux world. Thats 
why we should learn to fix problems  and improve  the Situation  by ourself. To help Joanie and all other 
people that currently  do most of the work for us.
Thats why I currently  form a new Dev Team (AIT = accessibility  improvements and Toolkits).

Currently  we are about 5 people. If you are intrested  in helping or improve  the situation let me know.  if 
you are not a programmer but you are intrested  in learning its no problem.  you will get an skilled guy on 
your side that can learn and coach you.
If you are a Dev feel free to contact me. More people will have more fun and the world  might more easy if 
you are not alone ;).
Our plan is to fix ugly a11y bugs and provide useful tools (like SOPS, OCRdesktop  or OCRpdf).
Currently  i m working on an modular modern and feature rich console screenreader  with my team. Its in an 
good shape and will get an offical announcement  soon.

What you guys think about?
Looking  for feedback,

Cheers  Chrys


Am Mi. Dez. 21 20:51:00 2016 GMT+0100 schrieb Jason White via orca-list:
> Krishnakant <krmane openmailbox org> wrote:
> > Yes from your perspective where there are different requirements and
> > paradimes, you are absolutely correct.
> > Of course current systems have few big advantages.
> > I have to work with my sighted colleagues day in and day out.
> > I have to exactly point out things to them graphically or you may say the
> > way they see it visually.
>
>
> I work with sighted colleagues too, but I usually don't need to know how
> applications are presented visually to perform my task. I think this level of
> information should be available, but it isn't good as the default approach to
> presenting a braille or spoken interface. There are people who have the need
> you describe, and this should be supported, but there are better ways of
> creating effective spoken interaction.
>
> There's a broader move toward virtual agents and spoken interaction at the
> moment. The Linux and free software community is regrettably not at the
> forefront of this work yet. If you've ever used an Amazon Echo (even if only
> in a technology demonstration), you'll know first hand what a high-quality
> spoken interface can do. People who buy such a device don't want to talk to it
> about buttons, menus, sliders, entry fields etc. - they want to use the
> vocabulary of the application domain.
>
> If there's a sustained move toward the notion that applications need to
> support such high-quality language-based interactions, then perhaps we'll move
> beyond the treadmill of GUI accessibility, with all of its problems, and
> toward a world in which user interfaces are inherently interactive and
> language-based as well as graphical - either or both according to the user's
> needs.
>
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