Re: [orca-list] Partially Solved: Fedora 22 Blues

[kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com>]

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hi
I'll just add that this probably will only work the way it's supposed
to if speech-dispatcher is run per user, not  system wide. I think
when speech-dispatcher is run system wide  it acts kind of like a
server, and listens for incoming connections. Apparently something
isn't working like it's supposed to, luke knows a lot more about this
than I do. If you can, I'd try reverting back to running it per user
for a bit until these changes can be made.
Thanks
Kendell clark


Janina Sajka wrote:
> The "supposed to" environment you describe sounds great, but it
> has never been my experience on Fedora, and I've been running
> Fedora since it was called Red Hat.
>
> Janina
>
> kendell clark writes: hi I need to spin up a fresh f22 install and
> test this. This didn't happen in f21. I'll do this right now, while
> I'm thinking about it but no, this is not supposed to happen. What
> is supposed to happen is the speech-dispatcher instance that was
> started by gdm is supposed to keep running so that multiple people
> can log on, and you can switch users, etc, while a second one
> that's started by orca when you log in is supposed to start. 
> Thanks Kendell clark
>
>
> Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > > Hi, Luke:
> > > >
> > > > Just to be clear ...
> > > >
> > > > My practical problem is that Orca doesn't come up speaking if
> > > > I have used speech-dispatcher during gdm login.
> > > >
> > > > In order to get Orca working with speech-dispatcher, I need
> > > > to kill the speech-dispatcher process.
> > > >
> > > > Surely, that's not correct behavior?
> > > >
> > > > Janina
> > > >
> > > > Luke Yelavich writes:
> > > > > On Sat, Jun 06, 2015 at 12:44:13PM AEST, Janina Sajka
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > However, to try and figure out what was happening, I put
> > > > > >  speech-dispatcher on its own audio device. That was 
> > > > > > enlightening. gdm is not releasing speech-dispatcher
> > > > > > following login, so orca doesn't come up talking until I
> > > > > > go to a cli somewhere and do a "killall
> > > > > > speech-dispatcher." I will find out whether it's just
> > > > > > something funky on this particular machine, because it's
> > > > > > a bug otherwise.
> > > > >
> > > > > Speech Dispatcher not shutting down when Orca is shut down
> > > > > in a gdm session is a known issue. Orca doesn't
> > > > > specifically kill Speech Dispatcher, which is correct
> > > > > behavior, but Speech Dispatcher doesn't have any knowledge
> > > > > of sessions etc, and stays running even if there are no
> > > > > clients connected.
> > > > >
> > > > > It should be noted however, that even though one is not
> > > > > using gdm all the time, its session according to loginctl
> > > > > is still running in the background.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have plans to add functionality such that Speech
> > > > > Dispatcher automatically shuts down after a period of time
> > > > > when no clients are connected, however that requires some
> > > > > refactoring of Speech Dispatcher's main processing code, so
> > > > > it will be a while before this is released.
> > > > >
> > > > > Luke _______________________________________________
> > > > > orca-list mailing list orca-list gnome org 
> > > > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit 
> > > > > http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
> > > > > The manual is at 
> > > > > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.ht
ml
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> > > > > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> > > > > Find out how to help at
> > > > > http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
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