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Re: [orca-list] Partially Solved: Fedora 22 Blues

I am not using Fedora, however, but gentoo.

covici ccs covici com wrote:


I have a config of  CommunicationMethod "inet_socket" and it seems to
work just fine --almost never crashes.  But my speakup is using a
hardware synth, so orca works when I log in.  On the gdm page, I get
Braille, but no audio for some reason.

Janina Sajka <janina rednote net> wrote:


Very interesting, Peter. Thanks.

I wonder how the decision to prefer running speech-dispatcher on a per
user basis affects these issues. Seems to me it's only complicated
things, and has not contributed to a smooth user experience.

On the other hand, my recent efforts to get speech-dispatcher running
system wide were unsuccessful. Probably something I didn't get right in
the configuration.

Is anyone running init_socket speech-dispatcher successfully? I'd like
to know how you got that to work.

Janina

Peter Vágner writes:

Hello,
I know this is also happening on other systems with other display managers.
However I am now with Arch linux and when the X session is terminated orca,
pulseaudio and speech-dispatcher often keep running. This includes GDM login
window as well as normal X session. So After GDM login screen is dismissed I
can find GDM user still runs these three apps. If I logout from X, GDM login
screen appears, then my user keeps running these three apps.
We were talking about this a while ago at Sonar GNU linux support list and
in cooperation with Kyle we have came up with a dirty trick on how to
temporarily hack around this...

Since that time I do have following content inside
/etc/gdm/PreSession/Default
and also inside
/etc/gdm/PostSession/Default

# Hack around the fact that PulseAudio and speech-dispatcher never die on
their own
pkill -9 orca
pkill -9 speech-dispatch
pulseaudio -k


Greetings

Peter


On 09.06.2015 at 04:25 Janina Sajka wrote:

Hi, Luke:

Just to be clear ...

My practical problem is that Orca doesn't come up speaking if I have
used speech-dispatcher during gdm login.

In order to get Orca working with speech-dispatcher, I need to kill the
speech-dispatcher process.

Surely, that's not correct behavior?

Janina

Luke Yelavich writes:

On Sat, Jun 06, 2015 at 12:44:13PM AEST, Janina Sajka wrote:

However, to try and figure out what was happening, I put
speech-dispatcher on its own audio device. That was enlightening. gdm is
not releasing speech-dispatcher following login, so orca doesn't come up
talking until I go to a cli somewhere and do a "killall
speech-dispatcher." I will find out whether it's just something funky on
this particular machine, because it's a bug otherwise.

Speech Dispatcher not shutting down when Orca is shut down in a gdm session is a known issue. Orca 
doesn't specifically kill Speech Dispatcher, which is correct behavior, but Speech Dispatcher doesn't 
have any knowledge of sessions etc, and stays running even if there are no clients connected.

It should be noted however, that even though one is not using gdm all the time, its session according 
to loginctl is still running in the background.

I have plans to add functionality such that Speech Dispatcher automatically shuts down after a period 
of time when no clients are connected, however that requires some refactoring of Speech Dispatcher's 
main processing code, so it will be a while before this is released.

Luke
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The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
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Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp


-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

         John Covici
         covici ccs covici com
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