Re: [orca-list] Built in Controls for Espeak Pretty Please with Sugar, cheeries, whatever it takes on top :)

["B. Henry" <burt1iband gmail com>]

It is vitally important that speakup be kept workiing well, i.e. something that can be used out of the box as 
with out a 
strong CLI Linux loses much of its flexibility and power, and terminal emulators are not a suitable 
substitute for many 
situations, even if you will be running a GUI all the time, which some of us do not. I use both CLI and GUI 
and do not 
want to lose any thing in either. 
There's another project called jupiter I think that is a potentially good CLI screenreader that I'd like to 
see revived, 
and yes, working out a secure solution for PA users to have CLI via speechd-up and speakup at the same time 
as orca is 
important. 
I do not like all the skipping I have to listen to with alsa and espeakup, but put up with it as the same 
error does not 
usually repeat, but it will be interesting to see how things go if I start runnning a hybrid sounds system 
with most apps 
using alsa, but one or two using PA.

On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 01:07:01AM -0400, Thomas Ward wrote:

> Hi,
>
> There is the catch 22 I see with VI Linux users. Most mainstream Linux
> users, those that use the GUI, have moved on to using the GUI and
> therefore pulse is a non-issue for them. Even I confess since I rarely
> use console speech this conflict between alsa and pulse is something
> of a non-issue for me personally. However, as many VI users still rely
> on console speech via Speakup etc they also depend on alsa and don't
> want to fight with pulse. The only solution I can see is perhaps
> writing a new screen reader for the console that uses pulse by default
> which would make alsa verses pulse a non-issue for VI users. Any
> thoughts?
>
>
>
> On 8/27/14, kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com> wrote:
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> > hi
> > Totally agree. I've switched to usinb libao, because of the alsa bugs
> > no one seems to want to fix. And please don't start in with the use
> > pulse audio option? Pulse is not an option for me, until and unless it
> > supports console speech out of the box
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