Re: [orca-list] Do we need "accessible" linux distributions anymore? was Re: Go to upper left and lower right corner in orca.

[Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com>]

Vinux 4 is based on Ubuntu 12.04.  that's not that far out of date.  Just so
you know, Debian Squeeze is very very similar to Ubuntu Lucid in what
packages it makes available to you.  Squeeze is the current version of
Debian deemed production-worthy.  What I'm trying to say is that even
mainstream distros have other goals than just being on the bleeding edge.
Vinux 3 is dependably accessible.  It allowed tons of  folks to experience
Linux accessibly and without glitches for the first time.  Vinux 4 will
continue the tradition.  I don't know why it's taken so long to come out but
I'm sure its got to do with putting out a quality product.  Perhaps Mo or
Don or one of the others from that team would care to chime in. 
I am also happy that so much work has gone into mainstream distros and
desktops that won't necessitate such a specialized spin as much.  However,
let us not forget how easily it could go the other way.  Let some
new-fangled library come along or a new interface and things change for a
time.  Look at Ubuntu 12.10 and 13.04's accessibility and compare it to
12.04.  Look at gnome 2.32's accessibility and compare it to Gnome 3.0's.
sure now, it's doing nicely but snags may be encountered in the future.  If
that happens, it's nice to know there are folks out there whose work will
ensure we have an accessible distribution we can use to tide us over while
the mainstream folks get all their ducks back in a row with regard to
accessibility.  

Alex M

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Subject: Re: [orca-list] Do we need "accessible" linux distributions
anymore? was Re: Go to upper left and lower right corner in orca.

It seems to me that the energy being put into creating a lot of CDs that are
accessible could better be spent in making mainstream life CDs more
accessible. One problem That plagues the so-called accessible CDs is that
they fall far behind the live CDs that they were originally made for for
example, vinux Was an outstanding distro based on Ubuntu, but now it is far
out of date, having been based on version 10.04. This is one reason why I
appreciate all the hard work that is been done to make gnome commonly
accessible. Anyone can open orca from gnome and use it completely ice free.
Start orca and carry on from there.

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On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:10 PM, Jude DaShiell <jdashiel shellworld net> wrote:

> No, debian rescue won't work with speech and here's why.  The s 
> parameter you use to start a debian installation disk speaking is 
> mutually exclusive to rescue as a parameter.  That means you can enter 
> one or the other but not both and have both work.  S and expert are also
mutually exclusive.
> It might be possible to start speech once the system had come up in 
> rescue mode if you had an audible indication when the system was ready 
> for input by perhaps opening up another terminal then starting speakup 
> up as soft_synth in that terminal though.On Sat, 26 Jan 2013, Geoff Shang
wrote:
> > On Sat, 26 Jan 2013, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> >
> > > grml is a bit different.
> > > Hardware or software speech can be used to install and run 
> > > afterwards and the last time I checked that out you needed the 
> > > grmlmonster.iso to do it which fits on a dvd only.  You're left in a 
> > > console environment after installation in grml too.
> >
> > Apparently speech support has been removed from GRML as of version 
> > 2011.12 as no-one was willing to maintain it.  I only discovered this 
> > the other day when I wanted to use it to look at a system.  Braille 
> > support remains, or rather was re-added in 2012.5.
> >
> > This concerns me a lot as GRML is very useful for system rescue etc.  
> > I don't know if the rescue mode of the Debian Wheezy CD would be a 
> > sufficient substitude, but as has been said in this thread already,
choice is good.
> > I'm sure that if anyone is willing to help out with this, the GRML 
> > maintainers would be more than happy to hear from you.
> >
> > Geoff.
> >
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