Re: [orca-list] Difference between CID, Wheezy and Ubuntu

["D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea arrl net>]

Good idea, I don't know if there is a configuration item not to install suggested packages though.

Unfortunately with some packages - like if I remember correctly the name - gnome-desktop which has all the suggested packages as dependencies and Ubuntu has these already installed and uninstalling them can break the system.  With Debian at least you have smxi to do command line upgrades which means you can break X server and then upgrade and fix it.

Someone should make a gnome-desktop-accessible for just programs which are accessible.

Sometimes if you try to remove one of the programs like epiphany and put in pidgin, this gnome-desktop package takes away ALL of the programs even if you want to swap packages for one with better accessiblity.

DR

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com> wrote:

You don't have to install inaccessible programs.  Just go into aptitude and disable the automatic installation of suggested packages.  Then,
aptitude install gnome-session-fallback gdm3 gnome-orca

Before hitting y for the installations to take place, carefully scan the list of suggested packages it will not install.  Write down the ones you want and either install them with another aptitude command or, pres n for no and retype aptitude install and include them this time.  I use this method successfully to build Debian installations without pulse audio.  I get a fully functioning desktop with only the apps I want and the sound system I want.  Best of all, I don't have to install from source.  If you want to make it easier on yourself, run aptitude from within an Emacs shell so you can kill and yank lines containing a series of packages you want to install.  I've done that to save typing.

Regards,
Alex M

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From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. [mailto:djringjr gmail com] On Behalf Of David J. J. Ring, Jr.
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 9:38 PM
To: Alex Midence; Andy B.
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Subject: Re: [orca-list] Difference between CID, Wheezy and Ubuntu

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I like Debian better than Ubuntu and I would configure my /etc/apt/sources.list file so that the testing repository is used.

The annoying parts of Debian are no jockey-gtk applet to easily install wifi and other drivers, no real firefox or thunderbird.  Also the standard GNOME Desktop makes you install non-assessible programs.

I installed fitefox from source.

David


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Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com> wrote:

>Wheezzy has 3.4.2 so it is just like precise. I cannot speak for the
>other since I have not tried them in recent months I would imagine that
>Sid has 3.6.0 or something like that. It should be possible for you to
>do a search online as to what packages are in Sid.
>
>Alex MSent from my iPhone
>
>On Jan 7, 2013, at 5:11 PM, "Andy B." <sonfire11 gmail com> wrote:
>
>> Is there any differences in orca performance when it comes to the
>three distros? If so, what ones are they? I am trying to find an
>accessible dstro with more recent software that fit my needs.
>>
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>> Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
>> The manual is at
>http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
>> The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
>> Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out
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