Re: [orca-list] Accessibility Testing in Ubuntu 12.04

[hackingKK <hackingkk gmail com>]

On 16/03/12 10:44, Alex Midence wrote:
> I don't understand what's so hard about configuring Precise to use an
> accessible gnome environment.  Once you get the hang of it, it's easy
> as pie.  All  you ahve to do is install the gnome and
> gnome-session-fallback packages and then change the session to
> gnome-classic in lightdm.conf and your username file in
> /var/lib/AccountServices/users:
I plan to do the same in a few days.
Will do it on Ubuntu 11.10 first.

> 1.  sudo apt-get install gnome gnome-session-fallback
> 2.  sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
> 3.  change x session from unity to gnome-classic
> 4.  control x, y for yes and enter to save under the same file name.
> 5.  sudo nano /var/lib/AccountServices/users/Your_login_name
> 6.  As before, edit the line containing the x-session and change it to
> gnome-classic
> 7.  Save and exit
> 8.  Reboot.
> 9 Enjoy
>
> 10 Thank you very much, that's a great set of guidelines.
> Whole thing probably take you an hour or two just because of the
> packages that have to download.  The hard part is in get speakup to
> work right  for you in console.  I got it working so long as I start
> it manually and don't log into x.  If I want to switch back and forth
> between x and console, forget it.  It's absolutely intolerable for me
> and I am determined to find a way to fix that but, such are matters
> for me now.

Fortunately I don't use speakup so I am on the lucky side.
Happy hacking.
Krishnakant.

> Regards,
> Alex M
>
> On 3/12/12, hackingKK<hackingkk gmail com>  wrote:
> > Hi Thomas,
> >
> > On 13/03/12 00:29, Thomas Ward wrote:
> > > On 3/12/12, Christopher Chaltain<chaltain gmail com>   wrote:
> > >
> > > "Don't forget that Gnome hasn't stood still either. Gnome 2 has been
> > > replaced with Gnome 3, and although I haven't used it, myself
> > > understanding is that the Gnome Shell in Gnome 3 has gone through quite
> > > a few changes, is a "flashier GUI" itself and has had it's own growing
> > > pains with respect to accessibility."
> > >
> > > Oh, definitely. Its taken me a while to adapt to Gnome 3 because of
> > > that fact, but as of Gnome 3.2 its acceptable. It could be better, but
> > > as long as I can use it I'm not going to complain too loudly. Which is
> > > why I am upset with Unity right now.
> > So can you update me with what all works pritty well with gnome 3.2?
> > Are there different keyboardd shortcuts I will have to learn?
> > Has accessibility improved in terms of performance with gnome 3.2?
> >
> > > I wouldn't have minded as much if Unity was accessible, but as it is
> > > now the "everything is broken" state is unacceptable. Which means for
> > > a stable production system I have to resort to installing extra
> > > packages and configure it just to get a reasonably accessible
> > > installation. Its not that I can't do it, but the principle of the
> > > thing that right now Ubuntu is less accessible than prior versions..
> > > While there is hope many of these things will get fixed before 12.04
> > > is released I'm concerned access is taking a backseat to Ubuntu's
> > > marketing strategy.
> > I am going to bring this to the notice of the Canonical's head for
> > Indian and east Asia.  He is a good friend and some where some how this
> > has to trickle downn from top officials to the development team.
> > In any case if they don't do their best, Vinux will always come to the
> > rescue by remastering Ubuntu and grabbing all packages by default.
> >
> >
> > > "Someone also said that Unity was trying to mimic Windows 8's new
> > > interface, but remember that Unity has been around longer than Windows
> > > 8, so either MS is trying to mimic Unity or they're both learning from
> > > the success Apple has had on multiple platforms."
> > >
> > > Right. When I first started looking at Unity my first thought was
> > > Ubuntu is attempting to come up with an interface similar to Apple's
> > > iOS which will be fine once its accessible. I have no complaints about
> > > Ubuntu wanting to come up with a newer flashier interface as that
> > > seems to be the trend for everyone. As someone pointed out Windows 8
> > > is a huge departcher from prior Windows user interfaces, and Microsoft
> > > seems to be following Apple's example.
> > +1
> > And we must all remember that the trend for smaller and smaller machines
> > is growing and tablets are becoming popular.
> > Happy hacking.
> > Krishnakant.
> >
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