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Re: [orca-list] Latest Version of Orca

hi
lol, I completely agree that i bit off more than I could chew there. I'm not blaming debian at all, I just am not used to gnome-speech, taht's all. i"m actually going to take another crack at it today with the help of an ssh friend lol. i'm rather used to vinux, which already has speech dispatcher up and running and configured, etc. However I like debian's selection of aps and it's free software approach so I can't make up my mind. On 10/15/2011 04:17 AM, Janina Sajka wrote: 
OK, so here's the deal.

Debian Squeeze is a perfectly good distribution, if you have the skills
to know how to work with it.

In just the past few messages we've heard from a long-time Debian user
who's had no problems with Debian Squeeze. We've also heard from someone
else who seems to have been unprepared to install Debian. Perhaps he bit
off more than he was ready to chew at the moment? Lastly, we've heard
from someone who expressed the rather wacky notion that you might need
to "bet the farm" to switch between gnome-speech and speech-dispatcher.

It should be very plain from these messages that skills matter.
Furthermore, not everyone has them. While it may be human nature to put
the blame elsewhere, that's not a productive approach.

So, I ask Riverwind again, are we going to school now to learn the
skills involved in debugging? Or, is the real goal here to get a working
system up and running as expeditiously as possible? If the latter, I
still suggest Vinux--for the same reason implied by our unprepared
Debian installer below.

One advantage to putting Vinux on this machine is that we will quickly
discover whether there's a hardware issue. That hasn't been ruled out.

Meanwhile, if we're going to hack, let's ask the next question: What
speech subsystem is being used? Does it speak from a console command
line? And, by the way, what is the nature of this crashing? When does it
happen? What are its characteristics? Do we know whether the load level
is being driven through the roof? Etc., etc., etc., etc.

Janina

Jude DaShiell writes:

Yes, riverwind is using debian squeeze. On Fri, 14 Oct 2011, kendell clark
wrote:


hi
are you by any chance using debian squeeze? I just downloaded that yesterday
and installed it. It was a disaster. I had to have sighted help to install it,
which took almost an hour lol, then I had to manually enable orca after it was
installed. I think I might have some idea what's causing orca to crash but
again I'm not sure. On my fresh debian install, orca was using gnome speech,
which as far as i know isn't very well supported and is no longer developed. I
tried installing speech-dispatcher which worked, but orca wouldn't see it, so
I just gave up and re installed vinux. PIece at last. On 14/10/11 17:15,
RiverWind wrote:

Ok, I am actually running orca 2.30.2 and  Gnome gdm  2.30.5. I am given to
understand that my version of orca is a bit old, but there aught to be
nothing amis with my version of gnome. However, we still can't pinpoint the
source of the constant crashing.

Feel free to visit my website and my blog and learn more about me
and what I stand for.
My Website @ http://riverwind.shellworld.net
My Blog http://windraven13.livejournal.com/

On Fri, 14 Oct 2011, Jason White wrote:


RiverWind<riverwind shellworld net>  wrote:

So for the sake of experimentation, I would like to switch my gnome
version back to "gnome.2.32" and my version of Orca to "xdesktop."
Would I need to download specific disks, or will I be able to
accomplish the switch online, via say, something like the "apt-
get?"

Which version of Gnome are you currently running?

In Debian, Gnome 3 is available from the experimental repository only, so
unless you've specifically installed it from experimental, you won't be
running Gnome 3.

In Ubuntu, so far as I've read on the list, you have to enable the
fall-back
Gnome environment and there are instructions available for this which have
been discussed on the list previously.

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Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at
http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Netiquette Guidelines are at
http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/NetiquetteGuidelines
Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp

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orca-list mailing list
orca-list gnome org
http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at
http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Netiquette Guidelines are at
http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/NetiquetteGuidelines
Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp




Jude<jdashiel shellworld net>
If I got a nickel for every message I've already sent supporting Microsoft
Windows and its applications I'd have enough to retire on comfortably no
matter what the stock market did.

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Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Netiquette Guidelines are at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/NetiquetteGuidelines
Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
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