Re: [orca-list] What version of libwebkit-gtk need installing with Natty to possible proper use Yelp webkit based version?

[Hammer Attila <hammera pickup hu>]

Hy,

I promise yesterday I will be trying Joanie suggested hints for webkit 
GTK based yelp in my Natty testing system. I not replaced yet factory 
packaged webkit gtk related packages. I remember wrong, already not have 
gecko based Yelp Orca application-setting file with my 
.local/share/orca/app-settings directory.

Enabling caret navigation  solving cursor tracking problems with I 
yesterday wrote (up and down arrow keys Orca not spokened actual lines).
A good news for accessible purpose distribution manufacturers, enable 
caret navigation setting is stored, so possible enabling central way by 
default with caret navigation for webkit based yelp with custom 
distribution if put proper Yelp related configuration file in the 
etc/skel/.config/yelp folder, the filename is yelp.cfg.
The yelp.cfg file containing only following lines if caret navigation is 
enabled, quotation marks is not need:
"[yelp]
show-cursor=true"

I looked Yelp usage both factory Natty packaged gnome-orca 2.91.93 
version, and actual git master version.
First impressions is very good. When I open a new help topic with an 
already opened topic, possible right reading the help topic if I using 
structural navigation commands.

Founded interesting issues:
1. When a help topics have a linked text, and if Orca begin spokening 
link text, link rolename spokening is happening with middle the link 
text spokening, not after the link text spokening.
For example, Orca main help page have following similar text:
"Read the universal access help topics."
Right spokening is following:
"Read the universal access help topics link."
I hear similar wrong result:
"Read the universal acc link ess help topics."
I don't no yet this is happening because webkit gtk related components 
is not the latest master version, I not tested yet this.
I reported this issue with following bugreport in bugzilla:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=646797

Unfortunately, I reproduced this issue both factory packaged gnome-orca 
2.91.93 version and actual Orca 3.1.0pre version, of course I attached 
the maked debug.out file. Hopefuly, this problem is happening because 
packaged webkit version is 1.3.12 version in Natty.

2. If I hear right, webkit based Yelp version Orca not spokening short 
desc field with a section title when jumping section titles with Tab and 
Shift+Tab keys, gecko based oldest Yelp version Orca spokening section 
title and section short description (desc field) when jumping section 
links with Tab and Shift+Tab key combinations.
I need looking again this to absolute sure this issue before reporting 
this issue with Orca related in bugzilla if this is an Orca bug. This 
problem is resolve with future Webkit 1.4 version, or this is the good 
way handling for Orca and Gecko based oldest Yelp version working wrong?

Now, I doed a short test only for new webkit based Yelp version and Orca 
usage. Joanie, I would like thank you your wonderful work to working 
Webkit accessibility.
If I founding another issues, I will be reporting this issues first this 
list, if the founded issue is Orca bug, I report the issue in bugzilla.

Attila