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Re: [orca-list] updating broke something, thanks

Thanks to Michael and others for their information.  With a fair amount of
reading, often tedious effort, and a few utterly dumb mistakes, I now have
Orca talking.  (I'm using the Nouveau drivers.) I still have work left to
get the Linux box fully the way I want it, but I believe and sure hope that
the worst is over.

Al 

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Whapples [mailto:mwhapples aim com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 9:36 AM
To: Albert Sten-Clanton
Cc: 'Steve Holmes'; orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] updating broke something

Hello,
Firstly let's try and get X starting and those nvidia driver problems seen
to.

For nvidia drivers I use the nouveau drivers. Part of my reasoning for this
is that my desktop's nvidia card now is only supported in one of the nvidia
legacy packages and they have had issues at times, so nouveau offered a
working solution. Also if you prefer an opensource solution then nouveau is
that. You may want to see the archlinux wiki page on nouveau
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Nouveau.

Should you wish to stick with the nvidia binary drivers then the archlinux
wiki page http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA may help.

Please note that while I am using the nouveau drivers the desktop is
actually running debian so I don't know precisely the situation for the
version in archlinux packages.

Also as pointed out, if you have GDM started then this may stop X starting
using startx. I would have thought though in that situation you wouldn't get
errors about nvidia drivers if your graphics were configured correctly.

Michael Whapples
On -10/01/37 20:59, Albert Sten-Clanton wrote:

I can't say for sure, but it's hard to believe my problem is not 
somehow related to this one.  I upgraded a week ago today, using 
"pacman -Syyu", as I typically do.  In my case, though, my use of 
"startx" didn't even get me close to bringing up Orca.  Even the X 
stuff didn't load, it seems.  I ended up reinstalling Arch this week, 
including Gnome and Orca and other GUI items I use.  Once again, 
"startx" hasn't even gotten me close to trying to bring up Orca.  My 
log file had problematic messages concerning my nVidia drives, but 
several tries at addressing those failed utterly.  I'd be mighty grateful

for any new ideas.


Al

-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] 
On Behalf Of Steve Holmes
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 2:05 PM
To: orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] updating broke something

I've been maintaining an Arch system here all along and even with the 
latest updates of speakup and espeak and all, I haven't had any 
problems with Orca.  I've been using git versions of Orca however, and 
I don't know if perhaps there is something wrong with the production 
version of Orca - doubt it though.  The PKGBUILD script for Orca is 
pretty strate forward.  I've never seen the slew of errors you spoke 
of.  How are launching your X session? Are using gdm to login or do 
you do a 'startx' from a normal user from the text console?

On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 04:55:24PM +0100, Michael Whapples wrote:
   

Hello,
The list of errors would be useful. I believe the issue people have 
been reporting about GDM accessible login may also affect standard 
users (although the situation may be less common due to other 
software running for normal users than GDM).

However, I doubt the accessible login warnings would have given 
errors about none-existent modules.

Michael Whapples
On -10/01/37 20:59, aerospace1028 hotmail com wrote:
     

Hello,
On my archlinux laptop, I ran "pacman -Syu" today.  After rebooting, 
something appears to be broken in orca/at-spi.  I can login to the 
gnome desktop, but orca doesn't come up talking like ormal.  
Pressing Alt + F2 and typing orca in the run dialo does not produce 
any errors, but it still doesn't launch orca.

I chcked an orca -v using speakup in one of the text consoles and 
recieved a host of errors about misdefined classes and none-existent 
modules.  I need to o some diggingto find houw to get to my 
USB-thumbdrive under the consoles and I can get you an exact copy of 
the error messages.

I update with pacman weekly.  I'm just running the stable base 
repositories and *not* the testing repos.  Does anyone know where I 
should look to determine the nature of y problem?  so hopefully I 
can report it to the appropriate people.

Thankyou
       

     

   

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es Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out 
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