Re: [orca-list] updating broke something

[Michael Whapples <mwhapples aim com>]

Hello,
Firstly let's try and get X starting and those nvidia driver problems 
seen to.

For nvidia drivers I use the nouveau drivers. Part of my reasoning for 
this is that my desktop's nvidia card now is only supported in one of 
the nvidia legacy packages and they have had issues at times, so nouveau 
offered a working solution. Also if you prefer an opensource solution 
then nouveau is that. You may want to see the archlinux wiki page on 
nouveau http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Nouveau.

Should you wish to stick with the nvidia binary drivers then the 
archlinux wiki page http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA may help.

Please note that while I am using the nouveau drivers the desktop is 
actually running debian so I don't know precisely the situation for the 
version in archlinux packages.

Also as pointed out, if you have GDM started then this may stop X 
starting using startx. I would have thought though in that situation you 
wouldn't get errors about nvidia drivers if your graphics were 
configured correctly.

Michael Whapples
On -10/01/37 20:59, Albert Sten-Clanton wrote:
> I can't say for sure, but it's hard to believe my problem is not somehow
> related to this one.  I upgraded a week ago today, using "pacman -Syyu", as
> I typically do.  In my case, though, my use of "startx" didn't even get me
> close to bringing up Orca.  Even the X stuff didn't load, it seems.  I ended
> up reinstalling Arch this week, including Gnome and Orca and other GUI items
> I use.  Once again, "startx" hasn't even gotten me close to trying to bring
> up Orca.  My log file had problematic messages concerning my nVidia drives,
> but several tries at addressing those failed utterly.  I'd be mighty
> grateful for any new ideas.
>
> Al
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On
> Behalf Of Steve Holmes
> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 2:05 PM
> To: orca-list gnome org
> Subject: Re: [orca-list] updating broke something
>
> I've been maintaining an Arch system here all along and even with the
> latest updates of speakup and espeak and all, I haven't had any
> problems with Orca.  I've been using git versions of Orca however, and
> I don't know if perhaps there is something wrong with the production
> version of Orca - doubt it though.  The PKGBUILD script for Orca is
> pretty strate forward.  I've never seen the slew of errors you spoke
> of.  How are launching your X session? Are using gdm to login or do
> you do a 'startx' from a normal user from the text console?
>
> On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 04:55:24PM +0100, Michael Whapples wrote:
>    
> > Hello,
> > The list of errors would be useful. I believe the issue people have
> > been reporting about GDM accessible login may also affect standard
> > users (although the situation may be less common due to other
> > software running for normal users than GDM).
> >
> > However, I doubt the accessible login warnings would have given
> > errors about none-existent modules.
> >
> > Michael Whapples
> > On -10/01/37 20:59, aerospace1028 hotmail com wrote:
> >      
> > > Hello,
> > > On my archlinux laptop, I ran "pacman -Syu" today.  After
> > > rebooting, something appears to be broken in orca/at-spi.  I can
> > > login to the gnome desktop, but orca doesn't come up talking like
> > > ormal.  Pressing Alt + F2 and typing orca in the run dialo does
> > > not produce any errors, but it still doesn't launch orca.
> > >
> > > I chcked an orca -v using speakup in one of the text consoles and
> > > recieved a host of errors about misdefined classes and
> > > none-existent modules.  I need to o some diggingto find houw to
> > > get to my USB-thumbdrive under the consoles and I can get you an
> > > exact copy of the error messages.
> > >
> > > I update with pacman weekly.  I'm just running the stable base
> > > repositories and *not* the testing repos.  Does anyone know where
> > > I should look to determine the nature of y problem?  so hopefully
> > > I can report it to the appropriate people.
> > >
> > > Thankyou
> > >        
> >      
>    
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> > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
> > The manual is at
> >      
> http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
>    
> > The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
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> >      
> http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/NetiquetteGuidelines
>    
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