Re: [orca-list] progress of progress bars is not reported., is it a known thing?

[Marco Skambraks <marco suse de>]

hi,

I followed this list a few weeks
and I'm very confused why the users talk about 
more features and mor and more

I tested orca together with Halim

and I think at this time we don't need more feature for special 
applications
first of all we need a clear structure for representing braille and speech

I'm more the braille user and Halim is more the speech user

orca represents much meta information on the braille display
braille-space is very expensive :-)
so don't represent to much meta-info on the braille display

for example on my 80 cell display
the most interesting information starts at position 50 or greater
so I got 50 useless cells

if I navigate in flat-review I'm not able to identify the status of a 
control
I just see the label and I don't know what kind of control it is and I 
don't know the status

to get an overview of a dialog or an application frame it's
essential to have these information on a braille display

the quetion from Halim is also my question
why are the controls represent in a reverse order?

label comes first and then the control

the control should come first and then the label

or it should be adjustable

there are several navigation/ and representation problems
it should be fixed first - before we start adding features for special 
applications

I know for a user this process is very boring and the user can't see any 
progress, but
for the future it's very important to have stable basic features

thanks to the orca-devel-guys for this screenreader


marco



On Sun, 6 May 2007, Halim Sahin wrote:

> Hi,
> To Will:
>
> I think the flat review should reflect the screenlayout with all of its 
> radio buttons, checkboxes, slidersetc.
> It is nice to have a shortcut to get the Status but the user needs to 
> know that there is E. G. a checkbox.
>
> By the way: In braille are these things not 
> availabe currrently.
>
> Another question is: 
> Why are the labels of some controls placed not on the right order like 
> on the real screen???
> Thanks
> Halim
> PS. The refresh problem should be fixed.
>
>
>
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