Re: [orca-list] progress of progress bars is not reported., is it a known thing?

[Krister Ekstrom <krister kristersplace ws>]

Hi,
I'm still for the beepomania thingy. You could have braille updating in
realtime, but beeps are faster than speech, because when speech have
said "9%", it's already gone to 100%. (at least that's the case on fast
connections)
/Krister

Willie Walker wrote:
> At one time, I played around with the notion of speaking new progress
> bar information if speech was currently not busy (it's around line 2497
> in Gecko.py).  The idea was that braille would keep updating as progress
> was made, but speech would just speak complete sentences.  I disabled
> the support because Firefox seemed to be crashing when progress bars
> were probed and I never got around to really verifying it.  Looks like
> Joanie just verified it is a Firefox bug:
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=436391.
>
> In any case, the behavior was something like this:  On the braille
> display, you'd see the percentage value update in real time.  For
> speech, however, you might hear "2 percent" "23 percent" "57 percent"
> "83 percent" "100 percent", where all intervening percentage changes
> would not be spoken because speech was currently busy.  In looking at
> the code, it looks like I also had it speaking the label of the progress
> bar, presumably to handle windows similar to Evolution's send/receive
> dialog that presents two simultaneously changing progress bars, or
> perhaps Firefox's download window that presents the status of
> simultaneous downloads.
>
> In any case, this is an alternative to beep-o-mania.  Other alternatives
> include using audio to play some sort of annoying rising pitch or cutesy
> sounds of a glass filling with water to indicate status.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Will
>
> On Sun, 2007-05-06 at 13:51 +0200, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
> > Hi there,
> > It's true what you say about beeps on progress bars, Halim, but think of
> > three blind folks with babeling screen readers in the same
> > situation.<smiles> I know what i would prefer.:-)
> > /Krister
> >
> > Halim Sahin wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > It is not only the progressbar problem!
> > > Currently the flat-review does not report any type of control etc.
> > > You can check this at the orca settings dialog.
> > > you can read the text while navigating in f.R. but no 
> > > additional info is available.
> > > In my opinion orca should report in flat review mode all controls like 
> > > this:
> > > You can open the setting window and navigate with your braille display 
> > > or with flat review.
> > > All controls should be reported via braille and speech.
> > > keyboard layout: Desktop   radio..
> > > show orca mainwindow checkbox checked etc.
> > >
> > > Nvda beeps on a progressbar but 
> > > Think about two or three blind in one office and you can have
> > > a nervous breakdown.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Halim
> > >
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