Re: Orca Laptop keybindings.

[Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt csir co za>]

Hi,
After a dist-upgrade on debian, I got Orca-setup run for the first time 
in my life.
I was pleased to be able to select the speech-dispatcher driver through 
gnome-speech as that is what i am using with speakup anyway.
My first impression of Orca is that it will be relatively easy to use once 
it is complete.
I had to search quite a bit for the Orca keys.
May be there is a short list of keys which I did not find.  I had speakup 
running when Orca was running and it seems as if they co-exist well 
together.
I am not sure if I am wrong there as I seem to not quite get the response 
from keys like the plus key for reading more than one line.
Should I disable speakup before going into X?
How well is web browsing suppose to work using fire fox deer park and Orca?
I tried the other day to get the latest fire fox but at the time there was 
a problem and the thing did not compile.
The one I have running seem to some times read the links but seldom the 
page content.
Should I do something special to get Orca to say more?
Which key is the "shut up" key?
I second Luke's suggestion around the alternative "insert/Orca key".

Good work so far, thanks,
Willem


On Wed, 29 Mar 2006, Luke Yelavich wrote:

> Hi Willie
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 12:05:04PM EST, Willie Walker wrote:
> > MODIFIER_ORCA is a made up modifier and is set in
> > orca.py:_processKeyboardEvent.  It is currently hard-coded to the
> > "Insert" key, but it would be possible to make the choice of key(s) a
> > configurable setting.
>
> Ok thanks. It makes sense now.
>
> > I'm glad to see you get in involved, and I'm also curious about the
> > laptop keybindings you plan on doing.  For example, although I've
> > noticed that the IBM laptop keyboards make keypad usage rather
> > cumbersome (i.e., you need to lock/unlock the state), other laptops
> > such as the Toshiba provide an "Fn" key that turns keypad mode on
> > when you press and hold it, which works well for Orca.
>
> Well from looking at the number pad keystrokes, I could swear you got
> most of those keystrokes from the Speakup screen reader for Linux, even
> though you probably didn't because the navigation keys are pretty much
> the same.
>
> For laptop use, I was thinking of adding another/an alternative modifier
> key, due to the position of insert on many laptop keyboards not being in
> a useful position. I would then assign keys U I O for line navigation, J
> K L for word, and N M < for character. I would then employ a control
> modifier to perform other commands that are performed with insert + 1,
> 3, 7, 9 etc on the number pad. In a few Windows products like JAWS, as
> well as Speakup, the capslock key is used as such a modifier. The only
> problem with this is the fact that capslock gets turned on and off as
> you use it to perform other commands, so like JAWS and speakup, it would
> be nice to be able to keep it turned off when being used as a modifier,
> and double-tap it to turn on or off like JAWS, or use shift+ Capslock
> like speakup.
>
> Hope this makes sense, and I would be happy to hear feedback from
> anybody else on the list as well.
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