Re: Navigating GAIM (was Re: tarting orca)

["Al Puzzuoli" <alpuzz gmail com>]

   For anyone interested, I just fleshed out the GAIM item in the wiki. It 
can be viewed at the following URL:
http://live.gnome.org/Orca/GAIM

--Al

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Willie Walker" <William Walker Sun COM>
To: "Orca screen reader developers" <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 7:44 AM
Subject: Navigating GAIM (was Re: tarting orca)


> Hi Cody:
>
> The IM window in GAIM is primarily two things: the chat area where  the 
> conversation occurs and the text area where you type.  There's  other 
> stuff in there, however, such as a toolbar for smiley faces and  a 
> horizontal rule.  The script for GAIM will speak/braille the text  and 
> chat areas automatically when they update, but you can use Orca's  "flat 
> review" keys to explore the window if you need to.  To do so,  use the 
> keypad keys:
>
> 7 - 8 - 9  read previous, read current, read next line
> 4 - 5 - 6  read previous, read current, read next word
> 1 - 2 - 3  read previous, read current, read next character
>
> You can also use the Orca modifier key (the "Insert" key) in  combination 
> of some of the keys.  To do some exploring into what keys  will do what, 
> press "Insert+F1".  This will take Orca into "Learn  Mode."  In learn 
> mode, you can press various keys and key  combinations and Orca will tell 
> you what they will do.  To exit learn  mode, press the "Escape" key.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Will
>
> On Apr 5, 2006, at 8:10 PM, C-DOG wrote:
>
> > hi willie!
> >  I got speech working, its amazing. a lot better then crappy old 
> > gnopernicus, more responsive, and itsworks with evolution mazingly.  I do 
> > have one question...
> >  how can I navigate in a IM window in gaim?? thanks a million
> > c
> > ody
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Willie Walker" 
> > <William Walker Sun COM>
> > To: "Orca screen reader developers" <orca-list gnome org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 1:09 PM
> > Subject: Re: tarting orca
> >
> >
> > > Hi Cody:
> > >
> > > There could be several problems happening here.  If speech isn't
> > > working, you might need to debug that first.  Here's a fast pass I  made
> > > on the WIKI for debugging speech (please let me know of changes you
> > > think would be helpful to make it clearer - I wrote it at night  when I
> > > was kind of tired):
> > >
> > >  http://live.gnome.org/Orca/GnomeSpeech
> > >
> > > If the goal is to start Orca when you log in, however, you have a 
> > > couple
> > > of options.  One is to tell your Linux distribution to not bring the
> > > graphical login up when it boots.  The method for doing this
> > > unfortunately varies by distribution.  With this option, you can add
> > > orca to your ~/.xinitrc file and then start the graphical desktop  using
> > > xinit.
> > >
> > > Another option is to bring up the System->Preferences->Sessions
> > > application (also known as gnome-session-properties from the command
> > > line) and add orca as a startup program.
> > >
> > > In either case, you might actually want to point to a script that 
> > > starts
> > > orca - that way you can do some pre-run cleanup of stuff if needed
> > > (e.g., kill synthesis drivers that might be hung and such).    Attached
> > > is a script that does some of this pre-run cleanup.  I'm not really
> > > advocating its use too widely, though, because Orca should not  rely 
> > > upon
> > > this kind of thing for proper behavior.  Instead, it should be  able to
> > > gracefully recover from bad things as much as possible or at least  give
> > > you an informative message about what's causing it pain.  But, it 
> > > should
> > > at least be able to help you get going.
> > >
> > > Will
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 12:12 -0700, C-DOG wrote:
> > > > hi will,
> > > >   but what is a way to avoid this? I mean, running orca from the 
> > > > terminal
> > > > probably wont' do the same thing will it? I have tried starting  orca 
> > > > from
> > > > the gnome terminal and minimising the terminal, and using it but  get 
> > > > no
> > > > speech.
> > > >
> > > > cody
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Willie Walker" 
> > > > <William Walker Sun COM>
> > > > To: "Orca screen reader developers" <orca-list gnome org>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 6:14 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: tarting orca
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Cody:
> > > > >
> > > > > This looks like it might be related to a GTK+ crasher:
> > > > >
> > > > >   http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326362
> > > > >
> > > > > The main culprit that makes it happen seems to be the run
> > > > dialog.  If
> > > > > you can avoid doing that until the crasher is fixed by the gtk
> > > > folks,
> > > > > then things might go better for you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this helps,
> > > > >
> > > > > Will
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 20:38 -0700, C-DOG wrote:
> > > > >> actually I can get through the setup, if I type orca in the
> > > > terminal
> > > > >> then it will say welcome to orca. this does not happen in the run
> > > > >> dialogue in the gui of gnome it just crashes the pannel.cody
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>         ----- Original Message ----- >>         From: Mike
> > > > Pedersen
> > > > >>         To: 'Orca screen reader developers'
> > > > >>         Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 1:44 PM
> > > > >>         Subject: RE: tarting orca
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>         Hello Cody,
> > > > >>            I have opened a terminal and typed
> > > > >>
> > > > >>                 orca-setup
> > > > >>
> > > > >>                 I get a prompt asking me which voice I want. I
> > > > can't
> > > > >>                 quite understand the 2 options, so I select
> > > > one, then
> > > > >>                 i am asked for speak echo charactors, I say Y
> > > > for yes,
> > > > >>                 after this I get no speech, what is going
> > > > wrong? I
> > > > >>                 have managed to get this far. I still can't
> > > > get out of
> > > > >>                 a terminal window, is there another type of
> > > > setup I
> > > > >>                 need to do?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>                 After you finish orca-setup you will not have
> > > > speech
> > > > >>                 until you type orca.  What happens if you type
> > > > orca in
> > > > >>                 the terminal prompt?
> > > > >>                 Mike
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
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