Re: tarting orca



Hi Cody:

There could be several problems happening here.  If speech isn't
working, you might need to debug that first.  Here's a fast pass I made
on the WIKI for debugging speech (please let me know of changes you
think would be helpful to make it clearer - I wrote it at night when I
was kind of tired):

  http://live.gnome.org/Orca/GnomeSpeech

If the goal is to start Orca when you log in, however, you have a couple
of options.  One is to tell your Linux distribution to not bring the
graphical login up when it boots.  The method for doing this
unfortunately varies by distribution.  With this option, you can add
orca to your ~/.xinitrc file and then start the graphical desktop using
xinit.

Another option is to bring up the System->Preferences->Sessions
application (also known as gnome-session-properties from the command
line) and add orca as a startup program.  

In either case, you might actually want to point to a script that starts
orca - that way you can do some pre-run cleanup of stuff if needed
(e.g., kill synthesis drivers that might be hung and such).   Attached
is a script that does some of this pre-run cleanup.  I'm not really
advocating its use too widely, though, because Orca should not rely upon
this kind of thing for proper behavior.  Instead, it should be able to
gracefully recover from bad things as much as possible or at least give
you an informative message about what's causing it pain.  But, it should
at least be able to help you get going.

Will

On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 12:12 -0700, C-DOG wrote:
hi will,
  but what is a way to avoid this? I mean, running orca from the terminal 
probably wont' do the same thing will it? I have tried starting orca from 
the gnome terminal and minimising the terminal, and using it but get no 
speech.

cody
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Willie Walker" <William Walker Sun COM>
To: "Orca screen reader developers" <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: tarting orca


Hi Cody:

This looks like it might be related to a GTK+ crasher:

  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326362

The main culprit that makes it happen seems to be the run dialog.  If
you can avoid doing that until the crasher is fixed by the gtk folks,
then things might go better for you.

Hope this helps,

Will

On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 20:38 -0700, C-DOG wrote:
actually I can get through the setup, if I type orca in the terminal
then it will say welcome to orca. this does not happen in the run
dialogue in the gui of gnome it just crashes the pannel.cody


        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Mike Pedersen
        To: 'Orca screen reader developers'
        Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 1:44 PM
        Subject: RE: tarting orca



        Hello Cody,
           I have opened a terminal and typed

                orca-setup

                I get a prompt asking me which voice I want. I can't
                quite understand the 2 options, so I select one, then
                i am asked for speak echo charactors, I say Y for yes,
                after this I get no speech, what is going wrong? I
                have managed to get this far. I still can't get out of
                a terminal window, is there another type of setup I
                need to do?

                After you finish orca-setup you will not have speech
                until you type orca.  What happens if you type orca in
                the terminal prompt?
                Mike


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