Re: Navigating GAIM (was Re: tarting orca)

[Cody Hurst <churst31 verizon net>]

hi,
  That link you posted tells me that the page doesn't even exist
yet? ??????????? its asking me to create a template??

cody

On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 15:25 -0400, Al Puzzuoli wrote:
>     For anyone interested, I just fleshed out the GAIM item in the wiki. It 
> can be viewed at the following URL:
> http://live.gnome.org/Orca/GAIM
>
> --Al
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Willie Walker" <William Walker Sun COM>
> To: "Orca screen reader developers" <orca-list gnome org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 7:44 AM
> Subject: Navigating GAIM (was Re: tarting orca)
>
>
> > Hi Cody:
> >
> > The IM window in GAIM is primarily two things: the chat area where  the 
> > conversation occurs and the text area where you type.  There's  other 
> > stuff in there, however, such as a toolbar for smiley faces and  a 
> > horizontal rule.  The script for GAIM will speak/braille the text  and 
> > chat areas automatically when they update, but you can use Orca's  "flat 
> > review" keys to explore the window if you need to.  To do so,  use the 
> > keypad keys:
> >
> > 7 - 8 - 9  read previous, read current, read next line
> > 4 - 5 - 6  read previous, read current, read next word
> > 1 - 2 - 3  read previous, read current, read next character
> >
> > You can also use the Orca modifier key (the "Insert" key) in  combination 
> > of some of the keys.  To do some exploring into what keys  will do what, 
> > press "Insert+F1".  This will take Orca into "Learn  Mode."  In learn 
> > mode, you can press various keys and key  combinations and Orca will tell 
> > you what they will do.  To exit learn  mode, press the "Escape" key.
> >
> > Hope this helps!
> >
> > Will
> >
> > On Apr 5, 2006, at 8:10 PM, C-DOG wrote:
> >
> > > hi willie!
> > >  I got speech working, its amazing. a lot better then crappy old 
> > > gnopernicus, more responsive, and itsworks with evolution mazingly.  I do 
> > > have one question...
> > >  how can I navigate in a IM window in gaim?? thanks a million
> > > c
> > > ody
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Willie Walker" 
> > > <William Walker Sun COM>
> > > To: "Orca screen reader developers" <orca-list gnome org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 1:09 PM
> > > Subject: Re: tarting orca
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Cody:
> > > >
> > > > There could be several problems happening here.  If speech isn't
> > > > working, you might need to debug that first.  Here's a fast pass I  made
> > > > on the WIKI for debugging speech (please let me know of changes you
> > > > think would be helpful to make it clearer - I wrote it at night  when I
> > > > was kind of tired):
> > > >
> > > >  http://live.gnome.org/Orca/GnomeSpeech
> > > >
> > > > If the goal is to start Orca when you log in, however, you have a 
> > > > couple
> > > > of options.  One is to tell your Linux distribution to not bring the
> > > > graphical login up when it boots.  The method for doing this
> > > > unfortunately varies by distribution.  With this option, you can add
> > > > orca to your ~/.xinitrc file and then start the graphical desktop  using
> > > > xinit.
> > > >
> > > > Another option is to bring up the System->Preferences->Sessions
> > > > application (also known as gnome-session-properties from the command
> > > > line) and add orca as a startup program.
> > > >
> > > > In either case, you might actually want to point to a script that 
> > > > starts
> > > > orca - that way you can do some pre-run cleanup of stuff if needed
> > > > (e.g., kill synthesis drivers that might be hung and such).    Attached
> > > > is a script that does some of this pre-run cleanup.  I'm not really
> > > > advocating its use too widely, though, because Orca should not  rely 
> > > > upon
> > > > this kind of thing for proper behavior.  Instead, it should be  able to
> > > > gracefully recover from bad things as much as possible or at least  give
> > > > you an informative message about what's causing it pain.  But, it 
> > > > should
> > > > at least be able to help you get going.
> > > >
> > > > Will
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 12:12 -0700, C-DOG wrote:
> > > > > hi will,
> > > > >   but what is a way to avoid this? I mean, running orca from the 
> > > > > terminal
> > > > > probably wont' do the same thing will it? I have tried starting  orca 
> > > > > from
> > > > > the gnome terminal and minimising the terminal, and using it but  get 
> > > > > no
> > > > > speech.
> > > > >
> > > > > cody
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Willie Walker" 
> > > > > <William Walker Sun COM>
> > > > > To: "Orca screen reader developers" <orca-list gnome org>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 6:14 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: tarting orca
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Cody:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This looks like it might be related to a GTK+ crasher:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326362
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The main culprit that makes it happen seems to be the run
> > > > > dialog.  If
> > > > > > you can avoid doing that until the crasher is fixed by the gtk
> > > > > folks,
> > > > > > then things might go better for you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hope this helps,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Will
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 20:38 -0700, C-DOG wrote:
> > > > > > > actually I can get through the setup, if I type orca in the
> > > > > terminal
> > > > > > > then it will say welcome to orca. this does not happen in the run
> > > > > > > dialogue in the gui of gnome it just crashes the pannel.cody
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >         ----- Original Message ----- >>         From: Mike
> > > > > Pedersen
> > > > > > >         To: 'Orca screen reader developers'
> > > > > > >         Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 1:44 PM
> > > > > > >         Subject: RE: tarting orca
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >         Hello Cody,
> > > > > > >            I have opened a terminal and typed
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >                 orca-setup
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >                 I get a prompt asking me which voice I want. I
> > > > > can't
> > > > > > >                 quite understand the 2 options, so I select
> > > > > one, then
> > > > > > >                 i am asked for speak echo charactors, I say Y
> > > > > for yes,
> > > > > > >                 after this I get no speech, what is going
> > > > > wrong? I
> > > > > > >                 have managed to get this far. I still can't
> > > > > get out of
> > > > > > >                 a terminal window, is there another type of
> > > > > setup I
> > > > > > >                 need to do?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >                 After you finish orca-setup you will not have
> > > > > speech
> > > > > > >                 until you type orca.  What happens if you type
> > > > > orca in
> > > > > > >                 the terminal prompt?
> > > > > > >                 Mike
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