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Navigating GAIM (was Re: tarting orca)

Hi Cody:
The IM window in GAIM is primarily two things: the chat area where the conversation occurs and the text area where you type. There's other stuff in there, however, such as a toolbar for smiley faces and a horizontal rule. The script for GAIM will speak/braille the text and chat areas automatically when they update, but you can use Orca's "flat review" keys to explore the window if you need to. To do so, use the keypad keys: 

7 - 8 - 9  read previous, read current, read next line
4 - 5 - 6  read previous, read current, read next word
1 - 2 - 3  read previous, read current, read next character
You can also use the Orca modifier key (the "Insert" key) in combination of some of the keys. To do some exploring into what keys will do what, press "Insert+F1". This will take Orca into "Learn Mode." In learn mode, you can press various keys and key combinations and Orca will tell you what they will do. To exit learn mode, press the "Escape" key. 

Hope this helps!

Will

On Apr 5, 2006, at 8:10 PM, C-DOG wrote:


hi willie!
I got speech working, its amazing. a lot better then crappy old gnopernicus, more responsive, and itsworks with evolution mazingly. I do have one question... 
 how can I navigate in a IM window in gaim?? thanks a million
c
ody
----- Original Message ----- From: "Willie Walker" <William Walker Sun COM> 
To: "Orca screen reader developers" <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: tarting orca



Hi Cody:

There could be several problems happening here.  If speech isn't
working, you might need to debug that first. Here's a fast pass I made 
on the WIKI for debugging speech (please let me know of changes you
think would be helpful to make it clearer - I wrote it at night when I 
was kind of tired):

 http://live.gnome.org/Orca/GnomeSpeech
If the goal is to start Orca when you log in, however, you have a couple 
of options.  One is to tell your Linux distribution to not bring the
graphical login up when it boots.  The method for doing this
unfortunately varies by distribution.  With this option, you can add
orca to your ~/.xinitrc file and then start the graphical desktop using 
xinit.

Another option is to bring up the System->Preferences->Sessions
application (also known as gnome-session-properties from the command
line) and add orca as a startup program.
In either case, you might actually want to point to a script that starts 
orca - that way you can do some pre-run cleanup of stuff if needed
(e.g., kill synthesis drivers that might be hung and such). Attached 
is a script that does some of this pre-run cleanup.  I'm not really
advocating its use too widely, though, because Orca should not rely upon this kind of thing for proper behavior. Instead, it should be able to gracefully recover from bad things as much as possible or at least give you an informative message about what's causing it pain. But, it should 
at least be able to help you get going.

Will

On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 12:12 -0700, C-DOG wrote:

hi will,
but what is a way to avoid this? I mean, running orca from the terminal probably wont' do the same thing will it? I have tried starting orca from the gnome terminal and minimising the terminal, and using it but get no 
speech.

cody
----- Original Message ----- From: "Willie Walker" <William Walker Sun COM> 
To: "Orca screen reader developers" <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: tarting orca


> Hi Cody:
>
> This looks like it might be related to a GTK+ crasher:
>
>   http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326362
>
> The main culprit that makes it happen seems to be the run dialog. If > you can avoid doing that until the crasher is fixed by the gtk folks, 
> then things might go better for you.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Will
>
> On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 20:38 -0700, C-DOG wrote:
>> actually I can get through the setup, if I type orca in the terminal 
>> then it will say welcome to orca. this does not happen in the run
>> dialogue in the gui of gnome it just crashes the pannel.cody
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mike Pedersen 
>>         To: 'Orca screen reader developers'
>>         Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 1:44 PM
>>         Subject: RE: tarting orca
>>
>>
>>
>>         Hello Cody,
>>            I have opened a terminal and typed
>>
>>                 orca-setup
>>
>> I get a prompt asking me which voice I want. I can't >> quite understand the 2 options, so I select one, then >> i am asked for speak echo charactors, I say Y for yes, >> after this I get no speech, what is going wrong? I >> have managed to get this far. I still can't get out of >> a terminal window, is there another type of setup I 
>>                 need to do?
>>
>> After you finish orca-setup you will not have speech >> until you type orca. What happens if you type orca in 
>>                 the terminal prompt?
>>                 Mike
>>
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