Re: Network Manager patched on Ubuntu Karmic 9.10

[Dan Williams <dcbw redhat com>]

On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 13:53 -0500, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
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> Dan Williams wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 13:38 -0500, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
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> >> Dan Williams wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 08:59 -0500, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
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> >>>> Dan Williams wrote:
> >>>>> On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 16:17 -0500, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
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> >>>>>> Dan Williams wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 00:00 +0300, Louigi Verona wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hey, Dan!
> >>>>>>>> Thanks for the advice. I am certainly keen on helping the community to
> >>>>>>>> solve the problem, but the bug had been reported to launchpad with
> >>>>>>>> like a dozen duplicates. The daily builds were suggested as partial
> >>>>>>>> fix but since then I could get no information from anywhere and bug
> >>>>>>>> reports on launchpad do not seem to be updated anymore. My friend was
> >>>>>>>> asking me whether he should install Karmic and I couldn't say "yes",
> >>>>>>>> since if his first GNU/Linux experience would be like that, I think
> >>>>>>>> this would not be a good thing. So eventually I decided to contact
> >>>>>>>> this mailing list directly, so that I can get some firsthand
> >>>>>>>> information.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> My dream would be to get a new version of NM. Uninstall this one,
> >>>>>>>> install this one and have it work normally like it did in 9.04 %) All
> >>>>>>>> apps get bugs like this one sometimes - I am not complaining. I just
> >>>>>>>> want to know if something is being done and if yes - when is a total
> >>>>>>>> fix planned? To me it is a serious blocker.
> >>>>>>> You can't realize that dream until we get some help in debugging the
> >>>>>>> issue so that we can fix the problem.  We also can't do anything until
> >>>>>>> users help us debug the problem by answering the questions that I've
> >>>>>>> asked.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Dan
> >>>>>> I have another one for Karmic, and I can do that as well. I've noticed
> >>>>>> that there does not seem to be any way to get it to pay any attention to
> >>>>>> an Ad-Hoc network. When I'm in range, the network appears in the
> >>>>>> knetworkmanager applet, but if I click on it, nothing happens (much the
> >>>>>> same as a hidden network did in a case we'd discussed in the past). I'm
> >>>>>> not sure what the debug info would say, but it should be interesting to
> >>>>>> find out. It looks like absolutely nothing happens at all.
> >>>>> Can I get some /var/log/NetworkManager output from that?  Based on that
> >>>>> we can enable wpa_supplicant debugging and find out from there.
> >>>> It's daemon.log for me. Looks like this is what happens:
> >>>>
> >>>> Nov 18 08:56:19 novosirj-laptop NetworkManager: <WARN>
> >>>> wait_for_connection_expired(): Connection (2)
> >>>> /org/freedesktop/NetworkManagerSettings/2 failed to activate (timeout):
> >>>> (0) Connection was not provided by any settings service
> >>>> Nov 18 08:56:48 novosirj-laptop NetworkManager: <WARN>
> >>>> wait_for_connection_expired(): Connection (2)
> >>>> /org/freedesktop/NetworkManagerSettings/2 failed to activate (timeout):
> >>>> (0) Connection was not provided by any settings service
> >>>> Nov 18 08:56:51 novosirj-laptop wpa_supplicant[1256]:
> >>>> CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS
> >>>> Nov 18 08:56:51 novosirj-laptop wpa_supplicant[1256]: WPS-AP-AVAILABLE
> >>>> Nov 18 08:57:00 novosirj-laptop NetworkManager: <WARN>
> >>>> wait_for_connection_expired(): Connection (2)
> >>>> /org/freedesktop/NetworkManagerSettings/2 failed to activate (timeout):
> >>>> (0) Connection was not provided by any settings service
> >>>> Nov 18 08:57:08 novosirj-laptop NetworkManager: <WARN>
> >>>> wait_for_connection_expired(): Connection (2)
> >>>> /org/freedesktop/NetworkManagerSettings/2 failed to activate (timeout):
> >>>> (0) Connection was not provided by any settings service
> >>>> Nov 18 08:57:20 novosirj-laptop NetworkManager: <WARN>
> >>>> wait_for_connection_expired(): Connection (2)
> >>>> /org/freedesktop/NetworkManagerSettings/2 failed to activate (timeout):
> >>>> (0) Connection was not provided by any settings service
> >>>>
> >>>> Each one of those activate timeouts is a result of me clicking the
> >>>> network and waiting 5-6 seconds. Didn't know to look in that log or I
> >>>> would have Google'd this one sooner (which I'll do now to see if it gets
> >>>> me anyplace).
> >>> So this log indicates that the applet isn't creating the connection
> >>> correctly and providing it to NetworkManager after you click the
> >>> network.  Is this actually knetworkmanager, or is this the KDE4 widget?
> >>> knetworkmanager itself (the old standalone applet) is no longer
> >>> developed and only works with NM 0.7.x actually.
> >> Things are a little confusing in Karmic and I didn't know quite what to
> >> make of it (I also didn't know a 0.8.0 was ever released, though I guess
> >> the version number would suggest that it's pre-release). While it
> >> appears that the previous version (Jaunty, 9.04) used a widget, it seems
> >> that Karmic uses KNetworkManager. When looking at my packages, I see:
> >>
> >> ii  plasma-widget-network-manager
> >> 0.9~svn1029786+ag1-0ubuntu1                                Network
> >> Management widget for KDE4 Plasma
> >> ii  plasma-widget-networkmanagement
> >> 0.9~svn1029786+ag1-0ubuntu1                                Network
> >> Management widget for KDE4 Plasma
> > 
> > Ah, that looks like you're *not* using knetworkmanager, you're using the
> > new plasma-enabled bits.  So that's good.  I'm talking about the really
> > old KDE3 'knetworkmanager'.
> 
> I guess that's made somewhat confusing by virtue of the fact that it's
> actually called KNetworkManager:
> 
> novosirj novosirj-laptop:~$ knetworkmanager -v
> Qt: 4.5.2
> KDE: 4.3.3 (KDE 4.3.3)
> KNetworkManager: v0.9
> 
> But this is a new version, yes?

Yeah, if it's KDE4, then it's the "new" version.  The "old" one only
worked with KDE3.

> > In any case, you may want to file a bug with the KDE plasma NM component
> > because I believe the problem lies there.  It's simply not creating the
> > adhoc network configuration settings and proving them to NetworkManager
> > after you click the menu item.
> 
> That's with NetworkManager or Ubuntu?

Ubuntu or upstream KDE.

Dan