Re: Where to hold it? (was: Re: GU4DEC - Let's start the discussionnow.)
- From: hobbit aloss ukuu org uk
- To: guadec-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: Where to hold it? (was: Re: GU4DEC - Let's start the discussionnow.)
- Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 11:12:02 +0100
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 01:45:39AM +0100 or thereabouts, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> No, really. I think that GUADEC staying in Europe is very important. It
> was first organised because there weren't any conventions in Europe
> where hackers could get together (Amricans have Usenix, remember).
I agree with Bastien. And very much with his list of "should haves".
> - should have a decent immigration/visit system (I'm wondering how many
> hackers from China or Eastern Europe we would see if the conference was
> held in the US)
I know of two conferences where speakers have had travel, accomodation
and talk topic all sorted: and then not got to them due to US immigration
turning them back. In one case, the conference wasn't even *in* the US:
the person was just catching a connection there.
Of course, this is before the DMCA. I suppose at least they were
able to return home...
Gods alone know what would happen if we had a Cuban Gnome hacker
and a Guadec in the US. (Hmm. Guadec in Cuba, anyone? :))
> - decent prices for hotels/food/etc.
> IMO, London isn't a good idea for example (some people were mentioning
Crap public transport. High cost of living. Insanely high hotel prices.
Yeah, bad plan.
> it, probably as a joke ;). I'd like to see it in Dublin or Prague, or
> some other place that would fit the criteria above.
Dublin is expensive. Think "London prices". :( If you can fly to
somewhere served by RyanAir, you can substantially chop the remaining
airfare: I once flew with RyanAir from Dublin to Cardiff for five pounds!
But I don't think it makes up for the food/accomodation bills.
Only way you'd get accomodation cheaply in Britain is to do what the
UKUUG (UK Unix Users' Group) do, or have done: at least once they've had
conferences in university holidays and hired out student accomodation.
The rest of Britain is substantially cheaper than London and the
south-east, but you run into "getting there" problems. I suppose
Birmingham or Manchester might have direct flights.
Prague, now... hmm :)
Germany was one suggestion I heard repeatedly, too. If we can get
help from people on the ground and from, say, LinuxTag organisers,
who went from a a few dozen people and an evening event to a huge
show with thousands of attenders in not very many years, that would
definitely be worth looking at. (Particularly since Guadec does
seem to be doubling each year. Eep.)
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