Re: Pure GTK vs Gnome

[Murray Cumming <murrayc murrayc com>]

On Sat, 2004-04-03 at 23:42, Iago Rubio wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> On Sat, 2004-04-03 at 22:46, John K Luebs wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 09:12:19PM +0200, Iago Rubio wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2004-04-03 at 19:30, Christopher Fairbairn wrote:
> > > > I'm aware of the fact that just because a package has "gnome" in it's
> > > > name doesn't mean it won't work with out Gnome. Although it's not a very
> > > > good example, I am intending to use some contents of libegg as the bits
> > > > I desire only depend upon GTK+.
> > > >
> > > > I think the best way for me to develop my app is as a straight GTK+
> > > > application, using libgnomecavnas for it's graphical content
> > > > presentation.
> > >
> > > Not sure why you need libgnomecanvas, but it has it's dependencies:
> > >
> > > Depends on libglade, that dependes on libgnome and libgnomeui that
> > > depends on libgnomevfs-2, that depends on libORBit, libbonobo and
> > > libbonobo-activation, and so on ....
> > >
> > > So libgnomecanvas requires almost the whole gnome.
> >
> > No, that's wrong.
> >
> > libglade does not have a hard dependency on libgnome or libgnomeui, and
> > libgnomecanvas certainly does not require a GNOME capable libglade.
> >
> > Dependency issues are a little more complex than just reading the output
> > of ldd.
>
> Sure, but tell that to a clueless user dealig with his package manager,
> that states abut the existence of those dependencies.

Exactly what distro are you talking about? I don't know of any distro
that thinks that libgnomecanvas depends on libgnome.

You should look at the output of pkg-config:

[murrayc localhost murrayc]$ pkg-config libgnomecanvas-2.0 --libs
-Wl,--export-dynamic -L/opt/gnome26/lib -lgnomecanvas-2 -lart_lgpl_2
-lpangoft2-1.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0
-lm -lpangoxft-1.0 -lpangox-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0
-ldl -lglib-2.0

You should also try to use libglade on Windows. It works and it's useful
and it doesn't need the rest of GNOME either.


[snip]
> But as example, to run Gnome canvas in Mac OsX with Fink, you must
> update the whole system to an unstable branch.

Please file a bug with Fink. We are not responsible for their mistakes.

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