Re: gnumeric is inexplicably broken on my machine: Now working

Hi Guys,

This might be a little off topic, but I think cups installs it's own
version of lpd and lpr.  Cups seems to have gone it's own way and
completely rewritten a printing system instead of building on lpd 
Seemingly as an after thought, cups has seen fit to overwrite berkeley
line printer spooling system (lpd) with a incomplete version.

Gnumeric works fine with Berkeley's lpd, although libgnomeprint could
handle some minor refinements.  If you'd rather use lpd - as I do -
maybe you could consider building and installing lpd after cups has been
removed, this should get your lpd running from the correct files.


On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 21:01, Alan E Davis wrote:
I don't use cups, at least I try not to use cups.  For me, lpd works fine, even for network printing.  
However, my current unstable configuration was built on top of a Knoppix 3.3 install.  Since Knoppix is 
KDE-centric, and uses CUPS out of the box, I have been flummoxed how to purge the printing setup of cups.  
Printing has been screwed up on this very machine---when I print one page from emacs ('lpr-region' or 
'lpr-buffer') three pages are printed, and sometimes blank pages are ejected.  So apparently my efforts to 
purge the system of CUPS has failed.  There are a number of troublesome dependencies.  

Perhaps that is the tree, up which I should bark.

Thanks for the clarification.  I will try to follow up if I figure out what gives.

Alan Davis

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 14:18:39 -0700
"Andreas J. Guelzow" <aguelzow taliesin ca> wrote:

On Tue, 2004-02-24 at 13:40, Jon Kåre Hellan wrote:
On Tue, 2004-02-24 at 21:33, Andreas J. Guelzow wrote:
On Tue, 2004-02-24 at 13:24, Alan E Davis wrote:
Gnumeric is now working---again, inexplicably!  The only difference 
I can see is I am using icewm.  I haven't upgraded any packages.

Alan Davis

This is consistent with the libcupsys problem that cups hangs when the
printer server does not respond.

The cups problem can bite you in unexpected ways - until you think about

I usually don't run into any such problems since I also run cupsd on
every machine, so the cups server is always localhost. That local cups
server then either polls another server or listens to braodcasts picking
up printers. If you are not connected to the network, your printers
simply disappear...


I had configured cups on my laptop to pick up printers from the cups
server, adding "ServerName" to /etc/cups/client.conf.

Fine when in the office, but when I was traveling, gnumeric wouldn't
start. Because the cups server wasn't accessible from outside.

Actually, after a while it gave up trying and timed out. But that was
after *I* had lost patience and given up.

Jon Kåre

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